re: Be wary of the Heisman

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How many times a day do you think about me?

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About 350.

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Do you wake up in a cold sweat afraid??

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No, but I do sleep in my kkv75 pajamas.

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Do you check under the bed before you go to sleep?

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No. I just check tigerdroppings before bed to see what nonsense thread you have started that day.

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They have done it before: RGIII, Murray, Mayfield, Mariota, Bradford were all way behind at this point and, as voters got bored with the "leader" they decide in December to vote for someone else.

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Let's take a look at each one of these seasons.

2008: Bradford was not listed on any preseason Heisman watch lists I could find, and Tebow was of course the favorite on all of them. But looking at the stats for both players it is pretty easy to see why Bradford won. LINK Bradford threw for almost 2000 more yards and 20 more touchdowns than Tebow. Tebow had 673 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns, but even adding those in leaves Bradford way ahead statistically. Definitely not a robbery.

2011: Luck was the preseason favorite, but again, look at the stats and it is clear why RGIII won. LINK They had nearly the same number of passes and touchdowns, and RGIII had more yards, fewer interceptions, and was a much better runner. Either player would have been totally deserving.

2014: Marcus Mariota was the 2nd favorite heading into the season: LINK Once Winston played himself out of the race it was Mariota's to lose, and he won it. Melvin Gordon put up a monster year and would have been a fine choice too, but to say Mariota was some kind of "back-up" option is just wrong.

2017: Baker Mayfield was the pre-season favorite, was a huge favorite in November, and went on to win easily. LINK Not at all a player coming from out of left field, and in fact one of the most boring and predictable Heisman races of all time.

2018: This is the closest thing to a "late comer-on steals the trophy" of all you listed. LINK Tua had a better season passing than Murray did, but once you factor in Murray's rushing they were both pretty close statistically.

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I see you are still trying to make that "edgy" and contrarian angle, as though you see something that the rest of the world does not. Although, the points you try to make in doing this are of no value other than mental retardation.


Shut the frick up, and just read what everybody else has to say. Nobody gives a shite about your dumb arse. And you are not in anybody's head. Don't flatter yourself.

How did that "Tua is not playing against LSU" prediction go? You know, the one you went round and round with other posters for a week?

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You're missing the point. All the winners had great numbers - of course. The fact remains, in each case the voters chose a different winner from the projected favorite. Let's just hope they do the right thing this year.

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Go back and look at ESPN's Heisman watch 

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That's your mistake right there. Too many people take ESPN's opinions as gospel when they are purely entertainment driven.

EXACTLY! And some of them are voters!

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Let's just hope they do the right thing this year

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Are you really this stupid to think that Burrow isn't going to win the Heisman? Since you don't think voters will do the right thing, do you care to throw up what % of the votes you think Burrow will end up with? You know, just so we can come back and laugh at you later.

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And by the way, Tua doesn't play anymore - as predicted. You're welcome.

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That's not what you kept emphatically posting. You said Tua was not playing against LSU, that he was too hurt. I mean, it was to the extent that you were insulting and name calling other posters about it. You were that sure that you were right about it. You ended up looking like a complete buffoon, by the way. Just as you are trying your hardest to do now with this. Like I said, because you are trying so hard to be edgy and cool and contrarian. You stole a page out of Paul Finebaum's or Stephen A. Smith's book, I guess.

Tua's college career over. As predicted.