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Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:27 pm to Tiger Phil
quote:
Are you saying that if Arky is 2 in the polls and LSU is 3, that our computer advantage would outweigh that and still put us at 2 in the BCS?
Yes, I am saying that exactly. I think the human polls are much closer than computer polls, thus giving the computers more effective weight than their nominal "1/3"
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:27 pm to lsumatt
I think there is a real chance that LSU falls behind Arkansas in the BCS polls if LSU loses to Arkansas.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:28 pm to DA
quote:
What if Arky makes it to Atlanta, but gets beat by Georgia?
Real good chance of LSU/Bama I think
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:28 pm to SuperRemo
quote:Maybe.
the winner of lsu-ark goes to title game
LSU can lose to UGA. Arky could NOT.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:28 pm to lsumatt
quote:
ACC does have 4 games left against the SEC
Florida, Georgia, USCe...
Which one am I missing??
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:29 pm to lsumatt
I'll say that it is now a complete possibility that I wrote off last nite that it could be an LSU/Arky rematch in the BCS 
Arky beats LSU
OU beats OSU
You have to choose between Bama and LSU to go. I believe we would have the computer edge over Bama. The pollsters SHOULD rank us ahead of Bama since we beat them.
Who knows.
Have to see what happens. But it sure is fun to talk about
Arky beats LSU
OU beats OSU
You have to choose between Bama and LSU to go. I believe we would have the computer edge over Bama. The pollsters SHOULD rank us ahead of Bama since we beat them.
Who knows.
Have to see what happens. But it sure is fun to talk about
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:29 pm to Chicken
LSU needs to just take of business and punch their own ticket.
We play and defeat who the BCS tells us to play.
We play and defeat who the BCS tells us to play.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:29 pm to Kim
wake-vandy?
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:30 pm to lsumatt
I still think OSU might end up #3 tomorrow. They'll likely be #2 in at least 4 out of the 6 polls from what I could tell (Colley, Sagarin, Billingsley, and Wolfe) because their leads in those are so big from Bama.
Furthermore, Arky will not be #4 on average in the computers. They will be #5 or worse in 3 of them.
The question tonight will depend on how the voters place Okie State after the loss. If they get at least fully 4th in the human polls, they'll still remain ahead of an Arkansas that is likely more than 2 full spots behind in the computer rankings.
If LSU beats Arky and UGA, and OSU beats OU, then I don't think people will put OSU behind VT, Boise, or Stanford and they'll clearly be #3. Then it will come down to those for and against a rematch. If OSU gets a solid #2 in the computers (which is likely), they'll only need 25%+1 of the voters in both human polls to put them in over Bama.
Furthermore, Arky will not be #4 on average in the computers. They will be #5 or worse in 3 of them.
The question tonight will depend on how the voters place Okie State after the loss. If they get at least fully 4th in the human polls, they'll still remain ahead of an Arkansas that is likely more than 2 full spots behind in the computer rankings.
If LSU beats Arky and UGA, and OSU beats OU, then I don't think people will put OSU behind VT, Boise, or Stanford and they'll clearly be #3. Then it will come down to those for and against a rematch. If OSU gets a solid #2 in the computers (which is likely), they'll only need 25%+1 of the voters in both human polls to put them in over Bama.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:30 pm to Chicken
quote:Can you please please sticky this now?
Chicken
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:31 pm to DA
quote:
What if Arky makes it to Atlanta, but gets beat by Georgia?
In this scenario, the SEC could have 3 teams playing in the BCS
It is the only way it can happen.
2 non-conference champs from the same conference in the BCS with the conference champ in the Sugar Bowl.
What. A. shite. Show.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:32 pm to lsumatt
quote:
Yes, I am saying that exactly. I think the human polls are much closer than computer polls, thus giving the computers more effective weight than their nominal "1/3"
Yeah, the key is if we lose it must be close, to create indecision among the voters.
But I certainly prefer us to win. And believe we will do so.
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:32 pm to Chicken
quote:
I think there is a real chance that LSU falls behind Arkansas in the BCS polls if LSU loses to Arkansas.
I think this only happens if other games go poorly. What do you think the human polls look like. Assume the Coaches poll with 65 voters. Lets pretend it looks like this:
1. Bama (+10 votes over Arky)
2. Arky (+20 votes over LSU)
3. LSU
Then LSU should be more than fine. LSU's computer ranking would be good enough.
What do you think the human polls look like?
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:32 pm to Tiger Phil
quote:
wake-vandy?
Thanks..
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:32 pm to Geaux2002
quote:And this is the REAL thing...
I still think OSU might end up #3 tomorrow.
Either it's some rematch between LSU/Bama/Arky or one of those v. OSU.
This post was edited on 11/19/11 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:34 pm to Geaux2002
quote:
I still think OSU might end up #3 tomorrow. They'll likely be #2 in at least 4 out of the 6 polls from what I could tell (Colley, Sagarin, Billingsley, and Wolfe) because their leads in those are so big from Bama.
I would agree with that. After I wrote 1,2,3 I started to think Ok State might be #3
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:35 pm to drizztiger
Off the wall question .. any thoughts on Stanford? thanks. I've got a headache
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:36 pm to tiger91
quote:
Off the wall question .. any thoughts on Stanford? thanks. I've got a headache
Stanford needs to win the pac12 to really get back in the mix. If I am not mistaken, that would mean Oregon has to lose to Oregon state next week.
Even then, I am doubtful Stanford gets in the BCSNC
Posted on 11/19/11 at 11:36 pm to lsumatt
quote:there could be some voters that rank Arkansas No. 1...they had to go on the road for both their big games...LSU and Bama had the luxury of playing at least one at home (Bama had two).
What do you think the human polls look like?
Arkansas, if they beat LSU, would have won 8 in a row.
Not saying that it will happen but there is an argument for Arkansas ranking well in the human polls.
This post was edited on 11/19/11 at 11:37 pm
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