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re: Based on the recent scrimmage stats, we can dispel the “QB Competition” talk

Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Lsualum2017
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:22 pm to
That 18 year old is the best player in America and is recruiting top teir players to come to LSU. Don't forget to add that part
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:23 pm to
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LSU fans should know more than any other that a one dimensional offense is easy to stop


Which is why you should be hesitant to wish for a DT QB that struggles to be accurate.

We don't have nearly the star power at RB as we have had in the past, but we will be adequate there. Enough to keep teams honest.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:29 pm to
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That 18 year old is the best player in America and is recruiting top teir players to come to LSU.


What does this have to do with his ability to assess QB play?

Trust me when I tell you that I don't think very highly of Ed Orgeron, but if we are at the point where we trust a high school kid's personnel assessment over our HC's then we are in some serious, serious trouble.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:37 pm to
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O said Narcisse had 100 yards rushing last scrimmage. That’s significant if you add rushing yards and passing yards.



Then make him a running back.

A dual-threat QB is only effective if he is a threat running AND passing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78389 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:38 pm to
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That 18 year old is the best player in America and is recruiting top teir players to come to LSU. Don't forget to add that part


Is he a college football coach? NO.

You can use his opinion as evidence that LN looks better than we are hearing, but you can’t say this is a reason to start LN.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:39 pm to
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if we are at the point where we trust a high school kid's personnel assessment over our HC's then we are in some serious, serious trouble.


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we trust a high school kid's personnel assessment over our HC's then we are in some serious, serious trouble.


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we are in some serious, serious trouble.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Trust me when I tell you that I don't think very highly of Ed Orgeron, but if we are at the point where we trust a high school kid's personnel assessment over our HC's then we are in some serious, serious trouble.


This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Lsualum2017
Member since Apr 2018
1979 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:42 pm to
We're adequate at RB based off what? none of these Running backs have done anything.

We had 2700 yards rushing last year, we're goin to be more of a passing team so let's say the goal is 2200. You get Narcisse to run for 500-700 yards which is plenty doable for him, then you are asking the remaining 3 to get 1,700-1,200 yards between themselves.
Posted by Lsualum2017
Member since Apr 2018
1979 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Then make him a running back. A dual-threat QB is only effective if he is a threat running AND passing.


Jalen Hurts says otherwise
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:54 pm to
Jalen hurts still completed over 60% of his throws and was actually a very underrated Passer in 2016.

He took a huge step back this year and got benched in the NC games because ... HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH THROWIG THE BALL!
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16576 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:57 pm to
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The guy with the 36% can be thought to throw better, and can run. The guy throwing 71% when a 300 lbs linemen is in front of his face to tackle him will he still throw 71%?

We don't even have a proven running back which is another reason a dual threat is better for this team

Myles Brennan HS rushing sats: 118/1141 yds (6.1 ypc) 23 TDs

Narcisse HS rushing stats: 354/2039 yds (5.8 ypc) 30 TDs

Brennan isn't a statue, but he's obviously not going to be running options either.
Posted by Lsualum2017
Member since Apr 2018
1979 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:02 pm to
Jalen Hurts threw for 60% because BAMA ran a lot of foward passing jet sweeps and bubble screens to inflate his stats. He got benched but he still had a 15-2 record and led them to plenty game winning drives.


Prescott and Newton were also athletes when they first got to campus but the coach did their jobs you know developed them.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Air_Raid7
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2018
151 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:09 pm to
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Myles Brennan HS rushing stats: 118/1141 yds (6.1 ypc) 23 TDs


He went to a St. Stanislaus, Bay St. Louis MS. Population 300.

Who was his competition??
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1156 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:11 pm to
A quarterback who can run still has to be enough of a throwing threat to make the defense honest, otherwise we should play a running back at quarterback. 36% is not good enough. If he can get maybe up to 50% you have a good argument. But not yet.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16576 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:38 pm to
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A quarterback who can run still has to be enough of a throwing threat to make the defense honest, otherwise we should play a running back at quarterback. 36% is not good enough. If he can get maybe up to 50% you have a good argument. But not yet.

True and when a QB starts one hopping passes to the WRs, throws it over their head or behind them our elite group of WRs are going to evaporate.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78389 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:39 pm to
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Jalen Hurts threw for 60% because BAMA ran a lot of foward passing jet sweeps and bubble screens to inflate his stats. He got benched but he still had a 15-2 record and led them to plenty game winning drives.


If we had an unstoppable running game and ran that offense I would agree but We fresh out of 5 star running backs.

Also Barnett’s was a no thread passer. Hurts was at least on Etlings Level.

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Prescott and Newton were also athletes when they first got to campus but the coach did their jobs you know developed them.


1. It took Prescott time to develop. He wasn’t the full time starter till his 4th year. He was splitting time with Tyler Russell

2. I dont Know what you’re basing Cam Newtons inability to throw on. Besides him being athletic.



Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8087 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:43 pm to
I don't care who shines this far away from the season. I had the same reaction a few weeks ago when it was all about the scrimmage JM had. I'm hoping we have an even and fair competition since it will only bring out the best of all 3.

I can see something special about each one of them. All 3 are based on potential right now, even the 4th year player. While I can't wait to see the spring game, barring bad weather ruins it again, I'm holding off excitement. I just want to beat Bama and go to the NCG. If the pocket passer gets us there, fine. If the guy who has potential to throw(and get better) and run, fine. Just make the competition fair along the way.

One thing I respect about the group and especially LN is the fact that they all seem to be true to themselves and willing to admit the areas they need to improve. Glad that LN was not pounding the table in his recent interview that he deserves to be the starter. Admitted that there was plenty to work. I'm sure if he does not win out this year he'll be the first to say that and hopefully stick around.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
9238 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:45 pm to
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O said Narcisse was “on it”

And O never lies.


Comin, we.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7867 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:56 pm to
Running against light house of the blind does not count. Brennan is in between Mett and Etling as far as and ability to run and escape pressure is concerned. He won’t scare the defense period. Now to add something here to the scrimmage I can confirm from 2 coaches at the scrimmage that none of the QBs were impressive. Myles did throw 2 picks as someone stated from another thread, but Narcisse and McMillian were no better. Also said their were some dropped passes. Oh and the RBs ummm we in trouble boys.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22873 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Running against light house of the blind does not count.


Brennan played in class 4A. I don't know how good class 4A is in Mississippi, but I think they also played a few New Orleans schools while he was there. It's not like he played in 1A or 2A.
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