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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:21 pm to ell_13
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Hell no. My college coach wasn't Mike Fox.
Just curious but why do you think your UCL blew? Year around play? Bad mechanics? Too much velocity too early? Genetics?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:26 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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and CLS
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:28 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:It wasn't overuse because I was never a starter even in high school. I pitched some because I had a stronger arm, but I was mainly a catcher until meniscus surgery my freshman year of college. I moved to the OF.
why do you think your UCL blew?
Mine was mechanical, but I wouldn't call it mechanics. My junior year of high school I changed my pitching motion to a side armer. Over the top, I threw like a catcher off the mound with no movement and an obvious curve. I dropped to the side (not sub), and the movement was there naturally and I actually had a decent slider. I was a closer in college.
My injury was during a fall ball weekend scrimmage; late October. I had gone the last inning as planned but only threw 6 pitches. My coach asked me to go another inning to at least get to 15. It was the weirdest inning I'd ever pitched. I jammed the first guy so badly that his two-piece Easton broke in half from hitting the "woven" handle. And the very next pitch to the next batter I threw a slider and felt it go. I didn't even wait for the catcher to throw the ball back to me. I simply walked to the dugout with my arm hanging. This was the fall before my senior year. I don't remember feeling mad or sad at the time. The frustration came way later.
ETA: This is how many UCL's tear. Mine was only a partial tear and it happened without any prior warning. Since it was only partial and we had some time before a surgery was absolutely necessary, we tried simple rest and rehab but PRP wasn't a thing back then. I had my surgery in February and was 100% pitching in games 12 months later.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:32 pm to LSURussian
80 or 90? You can be mid 60s and have graduated a segregated hs. I gave you too much credit.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:32 pm to ell_13
quote:Damn, that sucks.
I threw a slider and felt it go.
I remember Doug Norman's reaction when his elbow went. It was in a game at the Box and he just dropped to his knees in front of the pitcher's mound. It looked like a Chinese fire drill with trainers and coaches coming out of the dugout sprinting towards him.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:33 pm to ell_13
And that’s the weird part about the elbow. Even small pitch counts and relatively few pitches on an arm and they’ll still blow.
Take Randy Johnson. Terrible mechanics utilizing practically none of his lower body while using his elbow like a slingshot to throw 100+ mph. No elbow problems.
Then you have someone like Walker. Beautiful mechanics, doesn’t throw a lot of pitches and low velocity and his elbow goes.
It’s mind boggling
Take Randy Johnson. Terrible mechanics utilizing practically none of his lower body while using his elbow like a slingshot to throw 100+ mph. No elbow problems.
Then you have someone like Walker. Beautiful mechanics, doesn’t throw a lot of pitches and low velocity and his elbow goes.
It’s mind boggling
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:36 pm to Klingler7
Great call! One of the all time greats to ever play for "Baseball World"
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:36 pm to BeauxNArreaux
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I agree he is running the fan base away from the box... Mid week games are over half empty Friday night and Saturday crowds are somewhat full Sunday's games are half empty
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If Mainieri isnt a hitting oriented coach, not a pitching coach, and doesnt recruit, what the hell does he do?
Are people finally waking up to the fact that CPM is trash? Maybe he does some things well, but he’s not a fit at LSU and never has been. Awful decisions on pitching, runs off players who thrive elsewhere, plays favorites, blames players, never takes responsibility, sucks at motivating.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:36 pm to LSURussian
quote:I imagine a real game in front of an LSU crowd evokes much more emotion than my situation which was pretty much the exact opposite. Even though mine wasn't the full "pop" it was an immediate pain/tingle all the way down to my ring and pinky fingers. My entire forearm was sore for weeks.
It was in a game at the Box and he just dropped to his knees in front of the pitcher's mound.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:36 pm to LSURussian
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I remember Doug Norman's reaction when his elbow went. It was in a game at the Box and he just dropped to his knees in front of the pitcher's mound.
I remember watching that on TV. You could see some sort of reaction as soon as he let the ball go. I let out an involuntary "oh shite" right after he threw the pitch. You could just tell. It's awful.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:39 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:The way I threw put a ton of stress on the ligament. I don't regret throwing that way. It was the only way I was effective. And it lead to some great moments on the mound. Closing is a huge adrenaline rush.
Even small pitch counts and relatively few pitches on an arm and they’ll still blow.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:41 pm to ell_13
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imagine a real game in front of an LSU crowd evokes much more emotion than my situation which was pretty much the exact opposite. Even though mine wasn't the full "pop" it was an immediate pain/tingle all the way down to my ring and pinky fingers. My entire forearm was sore for weeks.
My best friend in high school had the “pop” he was pitching an absolute gem and in a later inning he threw a fastball that hit about 2 foot in front of the plate and you could just see the pain on his face. By the time I got to the mound from 3rd base his elbow was already ridiculously swollen.
He said the same thing about the tingling in his fingers. His was definitely from overuse though. It bordered on child abuse how often his dad allowed coaches to pitch him.
He refused to get the surgery just because he was sick of baseball and knew this would allow him to stop playing. It was sad
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:50 pm to BigEdLSU
quote:That's not what you said.
80 or 90? You can be mid 60s and have graduated a segregated hs.
You said the "old generation" in the stands who don't cheer at the PMAC are the same ones who "did not allow black athletes at LSU...."
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The old white generation that did not allow black athletes at lsu
If they were influential adults who could prevent black athletes from playing for LSU, which was 1969 when the first black athlete competed for LSU and the first black students to enroll at LSU occurred in 1964, they would have to be in their 80's or 90's now.
When I said "do the math" I assumed you comprehended what you wrote. My bad.
PS-This is the second time in this thread where you posted something ridiculous and then pretended you posted something different when you got called on it.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:54 pm to LSURussian
I'd love to meet you at the box and buy you a corndog.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:58 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:I was at the game so I was watching the ball and didn't notice Norman's initial reaction. I just remember after the catcher caught the ball I then looked at Norman and he was already on the ground.
I remember watching that on TV. You could see some sort of reaction as soon as he let the ball go. I let out an involuntary "oh shite" right after he threw the pitch.
I just said "uh-oh" out loud. My buddy who went to the game with me was looking down at his program scoring the game and he looked over at me and said, "What?"
I said, "Look at Norman. He's on his knees on the ground."
BTW, Project, I know Norman got drafted by someone. Where is he now?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:03 pm to BigEdLSU
I don't eat corn dogs at the Box.
Besides, why would you go to a LSU baseball game and associate with all us racists who are cheering for Ma'Khail Hillard, C.J. Willis and Jaden Hill?
EDIT: Based on your posts I seriously doubt you've ever been to an LSU baseball game....
Besides, why would you go to a LSU baseball game and associate with all us racists who are cheering for Ma'Khail Hillard, C.J. Willis and Jaden Hill?
EDIT: Based on your posts I seriously doubt you've ever been to an LSU baseball game....
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:05 pm to LSURussian
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BTW, Project, I know Norman got drafted by someone. Where is he now?
He was drafted by the Reds. Didn't throw a professional pitch until last summer (about a year after drafted). I believe he has since been released and is no longer in baseball.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:10 pm to ProjectP2294
Too bad if he's out of baseball. What I remember most about him is his grandfather is/was the longest tenured professor at LSU, in theoretical physics.
. Doug was from Georgia and there was a long article about him when he was a freshman about his family connections to LSU.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:11 pm to LSURussian
baseball isnt very fun to watch, especially compared to basketball, but I usually get out there for several games a year.
im on a boycott of lsu athletics until there is a new administration, but i don't expect them to miss my meager presence.
you may be surprised... i would expect the tough guy schtick to not play well in person. we would likely develop a friendship, and you would convince me that you arent just a contration a-hole who loved spamming basketball threads with concern trolling. You might even be shocked to find out im not racist myself, but that may be what discourages a meeting.
this is not some type of concealed threat, i dont live that way. i'm frankly sick of you harrassing me in threads, what better way to end it than to develop a real life friendship?
im on a boycott of lsu athletics until there is a new administration, but i don't expect them to miss my meager presence.
you may be surprised... i would expect the tough guy schtick to not play well in person. we would likely develop a friendship, and you would convince me that you arent just a contration a-hole who loved spamming basketball threads with concern trolling. You might even be shocked to find out im not racist myself, but that may be what discourages a meeting.
this is not some type of concealed threat, i dont live that way. i'm frankly sick of you harrassing me in threads, what better way to end it than to develop a real life friendship?
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