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Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by LSU Al
lafayette
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:16 pm to
DJ can leave even though he is only a Soph, because of his age.

Hope he stays one more year though.
Posted by eelsuee
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:19 pm to
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It doesnt matter if he throws 90 now. the question scouts ask is "will he throw harder" the answer is yes so this is a non issue
You know that is not a non-issue. There are several others his age already throwing 93+. Hitting 93 (and possible room for improvement) is much better than throwing 90 with potential improvement.

I know other factors are important and I really don't know how hard he throws, but most high school pitchers are drafted with the expectation of their velocity improving and you don't see many in the top two rounds that throw in the high eighties and max out at 90.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:35 pm to
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You know that is not a non-issue. There are several others his age already throwing 93+. Hitting 93 (and possible room for improvement) is much better than throwing 90 with potential improvement.


You are right, however, his pitchability is off the charts for a kid in high school. Thats the main factor here, not his velocity on may 28, 2009
Posted by LC4Tigers
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
881 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

jared mitchell struggles against left handers


it's more of a curve ball issue with mitchell. its as if he's never seen a ball curve before every time they throw it to him
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:56 pm to
I don't think you know what you are talking about.

The kid has major league potential, no doubt. Will a team use a highly compensated early pick to draft him?

I have been told he had higher velocity earlier in his career, so it obviously does matter what he is throwing on May 28, 2009, after being road to four state championships in two different classifications.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:27 pm to
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I have been told he had higher velocity earlier in his career, so it obviously does matter what he is throwing on May 28, 2009,


I was not aware that his velocity had declined over the years. That does raise an issue.

As far as me not knowing what I'm talking about, I'll go ahead a guarentee that I understand the baseball draft and it's process better then anyone else on the board.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:29 pm to
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. So, I think that #27 overall is too high for him.

What does everyone else think?


You are probably right but scouts love "5 tool players", which that phrase gets thrown around waaaay to much. "5 tool player" has basically means really good black baseball player nowadays.
This post was edited on 5/28/09 at 1:30 pm
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:39 pm to
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"5 tool player" has basically means really good black baseball player nowadays.


The draft is all about potential as opposed to the nba and nfl draft. A lot of these black ball players are coming into the draft very raw in their baseball skills. A lot of them havent had the chance to play select ball their whole life, have private lessons, and in a lot of cases, they have poor high school coaching.

It's easy to call someone who runs well, can throw, and hit a five tool player. It means they have the potential to be that, not neccessarily that they are right now.

A lot of guys with this "potential" strike out in the minors because they cant put it together. It's worth the risk though for scouts and mlb teams.

J Mitch has an unbelievable upside. He could be a bust who never makes it out of low A ball, but he could also be the next Ken Griffey Jr. Because of the latter, he's worth a high pick.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:50 pm to
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"5 tool player" has basically means really good black baseball player nowadays.


Mahtook?
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27388 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:52 pm to
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Dean not on list either. Wondering if this list just includes high schoolers and under classmen?
Dean is an under classmen FWIW...
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7487 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:52 pm to
it's a bad statement that goes to a lot of black guys that are fast.

Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51337 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:53 pm to
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l, but he could also be the next Ken Griffey Jr.


I wouldn't go that far, but for the most part i agree.
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
82093 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:59 pm to
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As far as me not knowing what I'm talking about, I'll go ahead a guarentee that I understand the baseball draft and it's process better then anyone else on the board.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7487 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:03 pm to
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I wouldn't go that far, but for the most part i agree


I dont think that's the case either, but he will get drafted very high on the chance that he can be that good.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44261 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:02 pm to
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"5 tool player" has basically means really good black baseball player nowadays


Jay Bruce is black?
Posted by zacharytiger08
zachary
Member since May 2009
348 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:02 pm to
von rosenberg will gain velocity just by not having to play short stop after he pitches. He throws harder when fresh and will gain the velocity rather quickly. Kid has potential as a short stop if pitching doesn't work out also smooth fielding and powerful arm. And he also swung a big bat the last two years. He actually hit .400 as a freshman at barbe.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7487 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:04 pm to
josh336,

glad you got a laugh
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51337 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Jay Bruce is black?


Jay bruce doesn't hit for average, he hits for POWER.

Jay Bruce transcends color lines.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7487 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:13 pm to
you guys are out of control
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44261 posts
Posted on 5/28/09 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Jay Bruce transcends color lines.


Now I understand why Dusty doesn't have a problem writing his name in the lineup.
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