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re: Average SEC Head Coach's Buyout - $16,500,000

Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
What term do you prefer? Strongly dislike?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Don’t even try and compare basketball and football expectations.



Why not? Calipari makes >$7 Mil I would say that compares to football
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:06 pm to
Wade is 28th highest paid coach in D-1 BB and Orgeron 39th In CFB
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:42 pm to
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Wouldn’t it be nice to see what’s to come before just putting money on it?

Is that how YOU invest in real estate? Wait til the property peaks? And THEN buy it?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78288 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 pm to
Again... we already own the real estate.

Your investment metaphors are terrible
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:51 pm to
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Wouldn’t it be nice to see what’s to come before just putting money on it?
Nice? LOL THAT is the definition of Fantasy Land.


No one OWNS coaches. The are free to make the bargains of their choice. Money talks Bull shite walks.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:55 pm to
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LSU basketball won 10 games 2 years ago. They have a good chance of getting to the Sweet 16 this year. That's remarkable progress.

Getting to the tournament as an at-large bid is a significant milestone, for the record.
So, top-16 impresses you. Top-6 does not?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:59 pm to
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No one hates the head coach brother.
You had us fooled.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:59 pm to
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No one OWNS coaches


To a point, this is true, however, they are employed by the respective university. I would think they have a say with what they do, to a point, but ultimately it comes down to what the AD and the BOS agree on and how to "award" any said extension.


So Sammy isn't off base for saying, "let's see some consistent results before we approve any extension."

Granted neither Sammy, you,, nor I are in the approval process but we are fans and if the AD wants to keep the money flowing in on game days, he shouldn't be so quick to "approve" an extension. I have no ideas what the details of that is but it is something that Alleva should, and hopefully, has looked at every which way before deciding (although that is probably wishful thinking )
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46396 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:27 am to
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Buckeye Jeaux
I take it you don't understand why most good coaches get high buyouts?

Not surprising, coming from you. The same guy who tried to say burrow was better than Haskins using a 3 game stretch.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:53 am to
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Not surprising, coming from you. The same guy who tried to say burrow was better than Haskins using a 3 game stretch.
Haskins had better stats? Of course. He was throwing to a WR room full of NFL caliber talent (that he had worked with for 2 years). Burrow would have lit up the numbers with those WRs too. And Haskins would have had the same problems with the LSU WRs.

Urban said many times that Burrow and Haskins were equal. I buy that. But I give a slight edge to Joe because he can run the ball, and is a better field general.

BTW, Both Mel Kiper and Walter Football have OSU WR Parris Campbell as the #1 WR in the '19 NFL draft.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 2:04 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:35 am to
Dude, give it up. Burrow is no where near the same caliber QB as Haskins. Is burrow good? Yes, and he's a tough SOB. However, you can't compare his arm talent and skilled with Haskins. There's a reason he left early and will be a 1sr round pick, when burrow is a Sr. and not being mentioned in drafts. And it has nothing to do with who they were throwing to.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 5:56 am to
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Dude, give it up. Burrow is no where near the same caliber QB as Haskins
Meyer studied them both for years. He knows them better than keyboard football geniuses. And, Meyer had Burrow ahead of Haskins on the depth chart until Burrow broke his hand. Meyer says they're equal. Yes, I'll stick with Meyer's assessment.


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has nothing to do with who they were throwing to.
The WRs make no difference???? How football stupid ARE you?

And, Campbell is the #1 WR in the NFL draft by Mel Kiper and Walter football, but KJ Hill had more career receptions than Campbell at OSU. He's staying one more year. McLaurin and Dixon will also likely be drafted in'19.


This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 6:09 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78288 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:46 am to
He’s under contract.

We’ve invested in the property.

You’re metaphor sucks.

He’s being paid.

No one else is offering him.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:54 am to
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No one else is offering him.


By the time an actual "offer" is tendered, the agents and advisers have been negotiating for months, maybe longer. To think that there is no "interest" in Orgeron by ADs across the country is naive at best... pig-headed and stupid at worst.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:58 am to
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No one else is offering him.


There are tons of coaches that aren't being offered by other teams that get raises and extensions...just admit your logic sucks. It only applies to O b/c you don't want him as our coach.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:27 am to
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There are tons of coaches that aren't being offered by other teams that get raises and extensions.


They are coaches that could leave if they wanted. Orgeron would never leave LSU, because no school would pay him what LSU already is paying him.

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It only applies to O b/c you don't want him as our coach.


Then it sounds like hes on the same page as any other top tier programs AD and not a bunch of brainwashed south Louisianians who expect championships from a Michigan man but think O is killing it after a 3 loss regular season and finishing 3rd in the west.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297124 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:32 am to
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just admit your logic sucks


These threads highlight the stupidity of the average fan who knows shite about football and is still in love with the former coach.

It's a waste to argue with simpletons who think they know way more than they do.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:32 am to
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Then it sounds like hes on the same page as any other top tier programs AD


Except for the part that all those AD's give raises and extensions even when no one is trying to steal their coach.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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These threads highlight the stupidity of the average fan


It's rather comical that they don't know how raises and extensions are the norm in the coaching business. The fact that they can't comprehend why it's done makes me feel sorry for them. Maybe they are just too young and naive to grasp how the world works...or just stupid

ETA: you can tell they are all young b/c they love to down vote posts...or just pussies
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 9:37 am
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