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re: aTm hires a coach with a losing season and tRant melts like a snowball in July

Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Shitty thread


Considering who started it, it is no shock. I am just surprised he didn't put a thinly veiled attack on Les Miles in there somewhere.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:28 pm to
If the Rant was LSU's AD, we'd just go give Saban a $100 million contract and lock him in for life.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Doesn’t matter now. He’s 15-5 at Lsu. Jimbo in the same time 15-9.



sounds like aTm overpaid.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:33 pm to
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I am just surprised he didn't put a thinly veiled attack on Les Miles in there somewhere.


why veil it? I'm usually quite overt.
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:37 pm to
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If the Rant was LSU's AD, we'd just go give Saban a $100 million contract and lock him in for life.

Instead our real AD hired the guy whose greatest quality he could think of mentioning in his intro press conference was the energy and enthusiasm that he brings to his job.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:37 pm to
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aTm hires a coach with a losing season and tRant melts like a snowball in July


And we hired a coach with a career losing record...I'm not sure I understand your point.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:39 pm to
Just because I'm curious, were you one that was shivering in his boots because aTm hired Sumlin. Remember how his wide open offenses would wreck LSU?

I do.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65949 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:39 pm to
What’s crazy is if Alleva would’ve been allowed to fire Miles in 2015 and we’dve hired Ogeron and Canda for the 2016 season that team makes the playoffs and may have gone undefeated.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:41 pm to
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What’s crazy is if Alleva would’ve been allowed to fire Miles in 2015 and we’dve hired Ogeron and Canda for the 2016 season that team makes the playoffs and may have gone undefeated.

Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4876 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:43 pm to
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I thought past records don't count?


What about current records?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65949 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:46 pm to
Current records
Ogeron - 9-3
Jimbo - 5-6
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20620 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:49 pm to
That National Championship ring helps us out in recruiting
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4876 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:53 pm to
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you really think they would have a losing record if there starting QB goes out?


This is such a lame excuse. Georgia has started a true freshman qb the last two years, Alabama this year, lsu hasn't had much qb play in the last 10 years. Yet, none of them lost 6 games.

F.S.U. has more talent than any team they play for the exception of bama. All they had to do was pound the rock and play quality defense and special teams and he could win 8 or 9 games.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:57 pm to
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This is such a lame excuse. Georgia has started a true freshman qb the last two years, Alabama this year, lsu hasn't had much qb play in the last 10 years. Yet, none of them lost 6 games.


None of those teams rely on their QB like FSU does. Jimbo is successful when he has an elite QB. He's average when he doesn't. This year he didn't.

I agree that losing Francois isn't an excuse to go 6-6, but I think they are an 8-4 or 9-3 team with him.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71746 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:59 pm to
Meh he can afford one bad season

Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
I bet he doesnt even own a pair of shrimpin boots.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4876 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:09 pm to
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None of those teams rely on their QB like FSU does. Jimbo is successful when he has an elite QB. He's average when he doesn't.


Maybe that's a sign of his coaching weakness.

So Jimbo has to have an elite qb to go 8-4 or 9-3? Think about that statement.

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:12 pm to
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So Jimbo has to have an elite qb to go 8-4 or 9-3? Think about that statement.


I don't think Francois is elite, not this year. I think he is above average, but he's no Winston. We've seen what Jimbo can do with an elite QB.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4876 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:17 pm to
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I don't think Francois is elite, not this year. I think he is above average, but he's no Winston. We've seen what Jimbo can do with an elite QB.


wow, what coach can't? Da Chiz with Cam, Urban with Tebow, Brown with Young, Dabo with Watson.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22797 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:23 pm to
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wow, what coach can't? Da Chiz with Cam, Urban with Tebow, Brown with Young, Dabo with Watson.


Cam is a great example of an elite QB that was going to be elite anywhere. So is Young. Watson, Tebow, and Winston were elite, but some of that is due to how they were developed. If Winston had come to LSU under Miles he would not have been the same QB he was at FSU.

My point it, Jimbo knows what to do when he has a talented QB and he is great at developing QBs. He was forced to play a freshman that isn't anywhere near as talented as Francois and it showed. Does that excuse 6 losses? No. Did that contribute to 6 losses? Yep.
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