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re: Athlon’s ranking of 130 college football head coaches
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:11 pm to wilceaux
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:11 pm to wilceaux
quote:He is a good recruiter, but not any better than the guy we fired. And honestly he has really slacked when it comes to d-line recruiting, which is his "specialty".
Are recruiting and hiring a good staff not a part of being a good coach?
And which of his staff hires have been great? Canada was a bust. Sullivan was a bust. Ensminger has been okay. Meatball has been subpar. I'll cut Cregg a break because of injuries, but he hasn't been stellar either. The jury is still out on Brady. The special teams coach was a good hire. And if you want to give him credit for Bill Busch then that was a good hire, but Aranda really brought him in. But that's about it.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 7:30 pm
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:12 pm to cra_cra
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Who gets credit for the hires?
o didnt hire his oc or dc at lsu.
do you follow lsu football?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:14 pm to cra_cra
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Who gets Credit for changing the entire infrastructure of the LSU football program?
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Who gets credit for taking way less money than he should have in order to prove himself?
whats the going rate for a 55 year old career dline coach that had never in his life proven he could run a successful side of the ball, let alone a program?
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Way less money so that he could hire great coaches and analysts around him?
he took way less because no one else was even offering him a coordinator's position, let alone a HC position.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:20 pm to cra_cra
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Who gets credit for the hires?
Wait do you think O hired Aranda?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:24 pm to Damone
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Wait do you think O hired Aranda?
He absolutely retained him when he was about to bolt to Aggie Land.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:25 pm to Dlab2013
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:29 pm to Dlab2013
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He absolutely retained him when he was about to bolt to Aggie Land.
yeah im sure O asking nicely was the reason and not becoming the highest paid assistant in the sport's history.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:32 pm to Dlab2013
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He absolutely retained him when he was about to bolt to Aggie Land.
El oh el
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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yeah im sure O asking nicely was the reason and not becoming the highest paid assistant in the sport's history.
We get it...
Anything bad happens = O's fault, what a loser, Ole Miss sorry arse DL coach.
Anything good happens = Any other person did it... could even be the graduate assistants and ball boys.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:33 pm to cra_cra
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Who gets credit for the hires? Who gets credit for the talent evaluation and recruiting? Who gets credit for changing the QB culture at LSU? Which was an enormous undertaking? Who gets Credit for changing the entire infrastructure of the LSU football program? Who gets credit for taking way less money than he should have in order to prove himself? Way less money so that he could hire great coaches and analysts around him?
You are delusional.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:35 pm to BayouBengals18
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You are delusional.
Yep, and if he were doing horrible in these areas, you'd be the first to blame him and say it's his "responsibility" to manage these areas.
Sounds like you work checkout at walmart and don't understand how business works?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:35 pm to cra_cra
O needs credit for the DC hired by Miles staying on staff for being the highest paid assistant in history. Gotcha.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:43 pm to Damone
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O needs credit for the DC hired by Miles staying on staff for being the highest paid assistant in history. Gotcha.
Ha... another Walmart checkout worker.
LSU finished #2 in 2011.
2012 - 12
2013 - 14
2014 - unranked
2015 - 16
2016 - handed 0 two losses
Under O
2016 - 13
2017 - 18 (bullshite last play of game, would have been 12-14 range)
2018 - 6 (counting a bullshite AM game)
So, LSU just finished ranked higher than it has since 2011.. by a lot. FACT. We are starting a season as strong as we've been as a team since 2011, and are recruiting (and recruiting needs) as well as ever.
Only those that lack objectivity will keep being douches towards O at this point.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:48 pm to cra_cra
O hasn’t even met his own stated standards.
His words when hired weren’t “we’re going to improve our end-of-year poll rankings.” They were "My goal is to build a championship program fast, very fast. I understand the expectations at LSU and I invite them, because I have the same expectations of myself and my staff."
This year will be the year that tells all.
His words when hired weren’t “we’re going to improve our end-of-year poll rankings.” They were "My goal is to build a championship program fast, very fast. I understand the expectations at LSU and I invite them, because I have the same expectations of myself and my staff."
This year will be the year that tells all.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:54 pm to cra_cra
AP ranking, eh? How’d he finish in the SEC West?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:57 pm to Fat Bastard
“Best DC in country? This myth needs to die.”
It’s not a myth it’s a statistical fact that’s been argued and proven several times on this board.
It’s not a myth it’s a statistical fact that’s been argued and proven several times on this board.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:58 pm to wilceaux
“Are recruiting and hiring a good staff not a part of being a good coach?”
He didn’t recruit the upperclassmen or hire Aranda. Do you guys even watch LSU football? You have these programmed responses you automatically go to without thinking them through.
He didn’t recruit the upperclassmen or hire Aranda. Do you guys even watch LSU football? You have these programmed responses you automatically go to without thinking them through.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:01 pm to cra_cra
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But there are only 5-8 coaches out there doing as good or better job as him right now. That’s a fact.
This is the opposite of a fact.
I would also like to see a list of the 5-8 to know exactly who is excluded.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:02 pm to Fat Bastard
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Best DC in country? This myth needs to die. There is no evidence or rankings supporting this. Actually Aranda has never had a team ranked as high as what chavis and Pellini defenses were ranked.
Id tell you to go look up S&P+ rankings but you’re probably too ignorant to understand or believe them. If I’m mistaken, and you do, you’ll see that Dave Aranda at LSU has fielded a top 10 S&P + defense for three years in a row. The only other teams to do it? Alabama, Clemson and Michigan. Maybe, for the sake of argument, he isn’t number one. But he’s unquestionably in the top four.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:03 pm to MOT
There were 24 coaches who won as many games as he did last season, most of them with far less talent.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 7:08 pm
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