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re: At least the coach gets it

Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:34 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56974 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:34 am to
Must've missed the part where Boutte got pancaked.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61921 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:35 am to
It's not his fault. It was Tell the Truth Monday and he did.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:38 am to
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And the one that's the left tackle at Alabama should be here.


Well then LSU needs to reconsider our recruiting tactics.

I appreciate being a fan of a school that is VERY by the book (LSU's compliance office is one of the best), but if you want guys like this you have to go "above and beyond".

Bama does that. Robinson put it all on display after he signed.

LSU needs to step it up. If not, well....
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:49 am to
and head coaches need to have better offensive schemes

just sayin, instead of the redux seen the other night
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:52 am to
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Not really fair to the guys that worked all week, went to class, and gave it 100% on the field.


Fair? What is not fair about saying the truth about it? This isn't a bunch of 8th graders where everyone gets to play and everyone gets a trophy.

quote:

a little classless to say Cam Robinson is better than them


Again being truthful is classless. Guess you had rather Miles stood up at the podium and talked in riddles and say the execution was the problem on the players part?
Posted by bearfan22
CHURCH POINT, LA
Member since Jan 2013
520 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:30 am to
tell the truth mondays.
cam is better
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11938 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Not really fair to the guys that worked all week, went to class, and gave it 100% on the field. It's fine to say we need to get better at that spot, a little classless to say Cam Robinson is better than them and that they aren't first rounders.



Well maybe we should give them all participation trophies, huh? frick being PC. Sometimes the truth hurts....
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3517 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:10 am to
I think CEO is scapegoating a bit here.

While Bama has the best D-line in college football (maybe in the history of CFB), Ole Miss, Tennessee, and A&M were able to score points against them with recruits on the same caliber of LSU or maybe not as highly regarded as LSU. What's the difference? Why couldn't we score? A lot has to do with the Bama dominance of LSU O-line, but if you play into their strengths it doesn't help the line at all.

He stated after the game that the plan was to give Fournette the ball as many times as possible... Well obviously Bama planned to stop Fournette just like last year and you STILL slam the ball into that wall? The plan was almost exactly like last year with very similar results.

First down play calling was horrible for 85% of the drives seemingly going right at their defense. It was predictable and rarely used Fournette as decoy. They lined up in the 2 TE ace formation too much. When one guy is the centerpiece of an offense and you don't move him around and make Bama move around based on formation, it's easy for a talented defensive line to overcome good offensive linemen.

LSU doesn't use enough mis-direction in their offense to beat a talented team like Bama. If their defensive line doesn't know which way the ball is going and the LBs are forced to wait and determine flow and direction then you may slow them down enough to help your overmatched offensive line.

Play calling and scheme was obviously more of a factor than the talent disparity when compared to other teams who've played Alabama. And QB play was more of a factor than the line.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11163 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:22 am to
I hope to God you don't have kids.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11163 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:26 am to
What other team has their best O-lineman who is 6-7 playing center? Les recruited a bunch of guards and we have zero players that are currently able to play tackle and compete at an SEC level.

Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:30 am to
He is right. Cam Robinson should never have signed at Alabama.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3517 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:49 am to
quote:

What other team has their best O-lineman who is 6-7 playing center? Les recruited a bunch of guards and we have zero players that are currently able to play tackle and compete at an SEC level.



Everybody struggles against Alabama and Auburn, but there is scheme that can help against superior talent on the defensive line. LSU just seems to continue with stubborn play calling forcing the ball rather than using misdirection and formation to help create running room or confuse coverage. First down play calling was so frustrating to me, but we are limited in the passing offense.

My opinion:
The biggest challenge is overcoming our deficiency with passing the ball to open receivers. If Etling completes a few passes in that game, it slows down their run defense enough.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52509 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:51 am to
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Not really fair to the guys that worked all week, went to class, and gave it 100% on the field. It's fine to say we need to get better at that spot, a little classless to say Cam Robinson is better than them and that they aren't first rounders.
someone needs to light a fire under their asses
Posted by bigosports
Member since Jul 2013
170 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:55 am to
All anyone needs to see is #94 for alabama absolutely blowing up Boutte and putting him on his butt. Game, set and match right there!
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1674 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:01 am to
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We need to get bigger, we need to get stronger,


S&C
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1674 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:03 am to
Cam Robinson and Tim Williams should be in P&G
Posted by TigerStick
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2005
1206 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I hope to God you don't have kids.


I have two kids. I'm sure your kids will enjoy working for them one day. You dumb motherfricker.
Posted by TigerStick
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2005
1206 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:23 am to
quote:

I think CEO is scapegoating a bit here. While Bama has the best D-line in college football (maybe in the history of CFB), Ole Miss, Tennessee, and A&M were able to score points against them with recruits on the same caliber of LSU or maybe not as highly regarded as LSU. What's the difference? Why couldn't we score? A lot has to do with the Bama dominance of LSU O-line, but if you play into their strengths it doesn't help the line at all. He stated after the game that the plan was to give Fournette the ball as many times as possible... Well obviously Bama planned to stop Fournette just like last year and you STILL slam the ball into that wall? The plan was almost exactly like last year with very similar results. First down play calling was horrible for 85% of the drives seemingly going right at their defense. It was predictable and rarely used Fournette as decoy. They lined up in the 2 TE ace formation too much. When one guy is the centerpiece of an offense and you don't move him around and make Bama move around based on formation, it's easy for a talented defensive line to overcome good offensive linemen. LSU doesn't use enough mis-direction in their offense to beat a talented team like Bama. If their defensive line doesn't know which way the ball is going and the LBs are forced to wait and determine flow and direction then you may slow them down enough to help your overmatched offensive line. Play calling and scheme was obviously more of a factor than the talent disparity when compared to other teams who've played Alabama. And QB play was more of a factor than the line.


I don't know how anyone could downvote this.
Posted by Just_Fight_Baby
Haunting the Indian Mounds
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:41 am to
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LSU fans have been screaming for transparency for several years, now. You want it? You got it. The truth hurts. Suck it up and get better.i guarantee you that the things he says in public pale in comparison to what they discuss in the film room. If these players can't handle it, they need to find another hobby.
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This. Saban talks the same way in his press conferences. If you want to be the best, it begins and ends with telling the truth - both with oneself and to others.

Hogs will be ready Saturday. Let's go, TIgers.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86251 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:44 am to
Then why couldn't they come up with a game plan to score a single fricking point? Last I checked, no one matches up with bama, yet they can move the fricking ball.

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