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Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:32 pm to Sammobile
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I say you doc sammboilbe and offdacorner start up a club
you did that on purpose didn't you?
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:33 pm to LSU Slacker
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Well the discussion turned to how Jefferson has improved based from game to game to game. Yet then you bring up Lee who has not shown he improved from last year, mainly because he did not play. How is that fair?
I never once suggested Jefferson has improved over last year. I think he looks just about the way he did last year...which in most cases was fine with me...especially considering the alternative we were faced with last season. If you're jumoing on my take on someone else's comment about Jefferson having the ability to learn from his mistakes and Lee not, then fine. For my part, I never really considerd that there were a plethora of mistakes Jefferson needed to learn from. Lee, on the other hand, tended to make the same mistakes over and over again last season. Aside from the actual results, it was what was so damn frustrating watching his play.
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You want to judge him from last season fine go for it, but it would be as wrong
Until he steps onto the field, it is the only thing we have to judge him on. To assume he's made huge strides and would be largely mistake free if ONLY he had a shot is nice and very optomistic...but I don't think most Tiger fans would be capable of watching Lee come on o the field without some lingerng fear. For better or worse because of last year's ply, Lee is simply going to have to play his way out of that perception.
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the LSU defense, the coaching staff for last season.
Again...the players that were part of last year's defense have one game under their belt...but even so were already being cmpared to last year's squad. The difference of course is that the d consists of many parts, not the least of which is an entirely new d staff. to assume new players and staff would result in the same play is simply silly...
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:33 pm to Sammobile
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we should call it the realistic lsu fan club, but it would have many more members then you named there
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:34 pm to TheDoc
of course. he does that often.
he won't use ciron's last name, but will mention every other player by last name or full name.
BT = type the word "black". Go'head.
he won't use ciron's last name, but will mention every other player by last name or full name.
BT = type the word "black". Go'head.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:35 pm to better
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of course. he does that often.
he won't use ciron's last name, but will mention every other player by last name or full name.
BT = type the word "black". Go'head.
ah, you've figured that out as well?
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:35 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Until he steps onto the field
He did step on the field
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To assume he's made huge strides and would be largely mistake free if ONLY he had a shot is nice and very optomistic...but I don't think most Tiger fans would be capable of watching Lee come on o the field without some lingerng fear. For better or worse because of last year's ply, Lee is simply going to have to play his way out of that perception.
To continue to belittle the kid based on last year would be wrong also. That season is over its time for fans to move along. The kid came in, he tried, he did not play as well as many hoped its that simple.
Not the first season LSU has been 8-5, but first season I can remember they had Co-Defensive coordinators, a starting and back up QB lost on the team and team still finished 8-5. To me that was a positive.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:36 pm to better
I was thinking more so of a pledge, but its apparent of what type mentalitiy you have.
BETTER....You're early in your 20 plus posts (that is if you arent an alter) which you prob are, nonetheless... let me give you a hint of advice,.... stay away from the everybody is racist labeler/crowd.
Yo udont want to be known as one of those guys.
BETTER....You're early in your 20 plus posts (that is if you arent an alter) which you prob are, nonetheless... let me give you a hint of advice,.... stay away from the everybody is racist labeler/crowd.
Yo udont want to be known as one of those guys.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:39 pm to LSU Slacker
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not sliding, Sr teammates repeatedly having harsh words with JJ, the massively scaled back gameplan, not throwing down field, getting happy feet, the scary spacing on options
we won, but he looked worlds better vs GTech, IMO
not sliding, Sr teammates repeatedly having harsh words with JJ, the massively scaled back gameplan, not throwing down field, getting happy feet, the scary spacing on options
we won, but he looked worlds better vs GTech, IMO
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:39 pm to better
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of course. he does that often.
he won't use ciron's last name, but will mention every other player by last name or full name.
BT = type the word "black". Go'head.
now you are reaching.
good lord some of you are sad, pitiful individuals.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:39 pm to BT
nah, never that, BT.
now, don't you go crying on me.
i'm just trying to understand why you lobby for patience for one QB and don't practice what you preach.
there's no strings attached. that's what you do. honestly.
now, don't you go crying on me.
i'm just trying to understand why you lobby for patience for one QB and don't practice what you preach.
there's no strings attached. that's what you do. honestly.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:40 pm to Chad504boy
100% Confidence in JJ.
Very impressed and look forward to watching his development this season.
Very impressed and look forward to watching his development this season.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:40 pm to RobbBobb
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not sliding, Sr teammates repeatedly having harsh words with JJ, the massively scaled back gameplan, not throwing down field, getting happy feet, the scary spacing on options
that's funny, I don't remember you being critical of lee...
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:41 pm to WNCTiger
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compared to last season: Much MORE.
I saw a young QB that lacked experience in tough road games struggle with some aspects.
I also saw a young QB not make bonehead mistakes that were so achingly common last year.
No picks. No fumbles. No bad snaps. The kid was under pressure most of the time when he dropped back to pass. He either threw the ball away, scrambled to buy time, or took a sack.
Notice what he didn't do.
He shows leadership, poise under pressure, and pretty good athletic ability. He's no Jamarcus Russel but he is worlds better than the QB product we put on the field through the first 10 games last year.
Good post! I agree.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:41 pm to LSU Slacker
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He did step on the field
For one play. Are you suggesting that we've now seen the NEW Lee because of one play?
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To continue to belittle the kid based on last year would be wrong also.
I've never belittled him. in fact, I went out of my way in this thread to suggest that I felt he handled himself admirably and that I thought most of the blame laid at the feet of the coaching staff from last year. But that has nothing to do with whether or not I think he showed the ability to learn from his mistakes LAST YEAR...and since LAST YEAR is still the only data from which we can draw information, until he steps onto the field and performs above his play last year, last year will be what most Tiger Fans think of when they think of Lee's ability.
I think if people were honest with themselves, they'd admit that there would be at least a tiny bit of trepidation at the thought of Lee taking the field again...untill we've seen he's beatne his deamons from a year ago.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:42 pm to better
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i'm just trying to understand why you lobby for patience for one QB and don't practice what you preach.
all this b/c I said I wasnt OVERLY impressed with JJ sat night.
Next thing you know I wont say Ciron Blacks name.
huh..Im honestly puzzeled here.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:43 pm to BT
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I didnt notice these gloves over in ATL few months ago.
That b/c we had no other games to follow wht do you have to lose. You had 8-9 months to get his confidence back rather than one week! So you take it slow on the road until he is really comfortable. He did what we needed him to do!
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:44 pm to TheDoc
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what would he have to do to impress you?
5 TD? 500 yards passing to 10 different receivers?
I'd be lying if I said this didn't impress me.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:44 pm to BT
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all this b/c I said I wasnt OVERLY impressed with JJ sat night.
were you overly impressed with lee's play last year?
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:45 pm to Chad504boy
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The problems with the defense are all fixable.
Yeah but that was what the offseason was for.
You just have all the answers don't you.
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