re: Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?

I'm always mentioning Process vs Results in threads here, constantly. Some folks just don't wanna see the truth.

It is why in some ways, despite Bama's three losses this year of a 'folding late' nature, in a Defensive rebuilding year, I'd argue that their 9-3 is equal or better than LSU's 10-2(Bama didn't have near debacles like UNC & Tenn & Fla)..but Fla's 2010 clearly looks the part of LSU 2008's rebuilding struggles.

Bama, under Saban has a clearly defined modus-operandi for how Saban wants to win, and even though his young D couldn't hold up for all four quarters in their three losses, they largely rolled in their wins. Bama's players are well-drilled in well knowing their HC's gameplan and program's formula for winning each and every week. Which creates consistency. And when senior-laden, and loaded in talent every few years(like the classes Saban signs)..equals championships.

LSU under Miles is a scrapper, but it's usually always a grab-bag of many strengths, yet also unaddressed unknowns, and/or extreme highs and lows in consistency of execution regardless of foe level. With lot of adjusting & 'winging it'. Despite the gaudy win percentage, there are years where they don't maximize superior talent, in wins vs lesser foes, and in leaving title-hauls on the table for others to steal.

It's why without a new OC, that LSU , despite the great returnees, and oncoming recruiting class(of which Fla and Bama sign just as much and more yearly), that LSU will be greatly challenged to stay with Bama and Fla, in title hauls.

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Bama didn't have near deacles like UNC & Tenn & Fla

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and LSU didn't have a huge debacle like Bama had Friday...LSU had just as much inexperience playing on defense as Bama this year.

All the negative posters on this thread are just idiots.

Someone mentioned long term results - a coach does not win 60+ games in 6 years in the SEC because they are lucky. It is the result of a succesful PROCESS over 6 straight years.

Les is not 3-3 against Meyer, 2-2 against Saban, 3-3 against Nutt, etc etc ... because he's lucky - that is the result of a PROCESS that is at least AS SUCCESSFUL as Meyer's or Saban's or etc etc etc.

A coach does not take his team to 6 straight major bowls, win 4 of the 5 he's played, win one national championship and finish in the top ten 3 maybe 4 times in 6 years because he's lucky.

Let's all get real - man up and admit you were all wrong about Miles. If you just don't like him that's your right, but stop denegrating him - it makes you look stupid.

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would you call it luck that against FL in the Swamp, that our holder tosses an irregular shaped ball on a fake field goal that just so happens to bounce straight up into the kickers stomach.....Good coaching? Or luck?

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Are you saying you disagreed with the call to run the fake?

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You know what? You're complaining about wins. What's that say about you guys bitching. Give me a break.

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maybe you'll answer my question then.


is the end of the Tenn game indicative of good coaching, even though we won?


yes, we won, but were you happy with the way things unfolded in the end strictly from LSU's side?

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but do you seriously mean to argue that one or two games out of 70+ defines a coach

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if it were just 1 or 2 instances, you'd have a point. But I'am afraid it is more than that.


Im just talking about blatant horrible coaching decisions that good coaches do not make once, much less two or 3 times.

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Im just talking about blatant horrible coaching decisions that good coaches do not make once, much less two or 3 times.

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And what is worse is the fact that have been NO good coaching decisions since he got here. Year after year after of losing games is unacceptable.

Keep it up. This is getting funnier and funnier. Just be honest with us. Msu fan? Vandy Fan? I would say maybe a Bama fan, but even they aren't this dumb.

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LSU under Miles is a scrapper

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"scrapper"???

You do know that under Miles LSU is the 2nd most winning program in the SEC and that Miles has one losing record vs SEC schools in his 6 years and thats a 1-2 record vs Ga.

Add to that, he has beaten programs such as OSU, Miami, GT, ND, Arizona St, Arizona, Virg. Tech, No Carol, and WVU on the way to a one loss OOC record in 6 years.

You find that to decribe a "scrapper" program under a coach?

As to NS and UM, Miles has been here 6 years and is 5-5 vs those 2 coaches and beat both this season.

Seems to me they have been just as "greatly challenged" to stay with LSU/Les, huh.

Some can like Miles or not like him and that makes no difference to me, but it would seem that after 6 years there would be some respect from our own for what he has done here and continues to do here....and that's WIN at a higher rate than ANY coach before him.

And please spare me the he's just lucky BS. There is no luck that last for 6 years and almost 80 games.

He's good and he's got balls. That's a hard combo to handle...just ask UM and NS.

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SEC record the last 3 years is????......quick!! quick!!!!!????????

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why 3, last year we were told only the prior 2 counted...