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Are w really going to a 4-2-5 defense?
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:30 pm
I've been reading this a lot lately. What's really going on? Mathieu is no longer slated as a starter opposite of Mo. And I've read from several different sites that we will be run out of the nickel as our base D. Anyone have insight? Belowpar.
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 4:31 pm
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Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:31 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
I think it will depend on who we are playing... You will probably see a whole lot of 4-2-5 against Oregon
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:32 pm to lsuman242
I like that possibility.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:35 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
Lots of speed on the field with the 4-2-5 defense
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:36 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
When LSU is in the 4-2-5.. you can pretty much call it a Dime if Hatcher is a LB.. he could drop back into coverage.
I see the weakness in our defense as LB. Baker is strong but the rest inexperienced. I like the option of taking away a LB, and bringing in one of our playmakers.
Though against a power run team like Bama I don't see that kind of defense winning play in and play out.
I see the weakness in our defense as LB. Baker is strong but the rest inexperienced. I like the option of taking away a LB, and bringing in one of our playmakers.
Though against a power run team like Bama I don't see that kind of defense winning play in and play out.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:43 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
unless you have a link that quotes Chavis otherwise, the answer is no...
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:45 pm to Tigercoop40
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you can pretty much call it a Dime if Hatcher is a LB.. he could drop back into coverage.
isnt this the guy who TWICE took the aggressive routes to Arky WRs and gave Ark the win, including one with 6 seconds left in the half, where just stopping the guy at the 50 would have paid off, but NO!! he missed and the guy scored?!! and the other time he knocked out his own teammate DB and the WR went down the middle for the TD?
When I first saw the 4-2-5 at the subject line of this thread, I was hoping that means Hatcher is not going to be on the field, at all. In my view of the LSU season, as we approach Oregon, I have had Hatcher on the bench and run a 4-2-5 vs Oregon
and also the Chicago Bears 46 defense with the safety up where he can blitz.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:46 pm to ottothewise
We run nickel base don't we? That's 4-2-5 more or less.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:53 pm to bmy
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We run nickel base don't we? That's 4-2-5 more or less.
Not really.
4-2-5, in the sense that it's talked about in college football, means running with a 3rd safety.
A nickel is a 3rd corner.
Two totally different things.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:00 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
quote:
I've been reading this a lot lately. What's really going on? Mathieu is no longer slated as a starter opposite of Mo. And I've read from several different sites that we will be run out of the nickel as our base D. Anyone have insight? Belowpar.
First,
quote:when was he ever?
Mathieu is no longer slated as a starter opposite of Mo
Second, 4-2-5 =/= Nickel
The 4-2-5 allows tremendous flexibility against the spread option teams like Oregon.
Mathieu is perfect in the role of nickel/quasi-SS/rover as it allows him to be a playmaker (which he is naturally) and not just a defender of one WR.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:04 pm to ottothewise
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I was hoping that means Hatcher is not going to be on the field, at all.
Hatcher was playing safety, and he was a backup until our starter got hurt vs Bama (Ryan Baker, I believe). Hatcher moving to a LB has him covering slot receivers and running backs with safety help over the top. He will be good in that role.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:04 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
We'll probably play the 4-2-5 against teams who like to throw or have immense speed(Arky/Oregon).
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:06 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
I want Mo Claiborne and R simon at the corners and Tyranne in the game a much as possible so if that means we run a 4-2-5 so be it.
Against spread teams I do not see it being a problem. Its teams like Bama and Arkansas that are going to pound the ball with big backs that may cause problems.
Against spread teams I do not see it being a problem. Its teams like Bama and Arkansas that are going to pound the ball with big backs that may cause problems.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:08 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
We could start a defense that's slowest 40 time is a 4.9, and thats Brockers. If Freak (4.8) is the other DT, to go along with Sam (4.5) and Adams (4.6) at DE, with all of our LBers being 4.5 or 4.6 guys, and our DBs all being sub 4.45 guys, thats a FAST defense. 
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:56 pm to Choupique19
quote:Um, no.
Hatcher was playing safety, and he was a backup until our starter got hurt vs Bama (Ryan Baker, I believe).
Ryan Baker is...and was...a starting LB. Not a safety during the Bama game.
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 6:01 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
quote:We ran it with a ton of success last season so it wouldn't be that crazy.
Are w really going to a 4-2-5 defense
quote:He never was.
athieu is no longer slated as a starter opposite of Mo
quote:All of those websites probably were made by John Chavis.
nd I've read from several different sites that we will be run out of the nickel as our base D
Posted on 8/2/11 at 6:28 pm to ottothewise
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one with 6 seconds left in the half, where just stopping the guy at the 50 would have paid off,
and
quote:
the other time he knocked out his own teammate DB and the WR went down the middle for the TD?
were the same play ... just sayin'.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:29 pm to 1984Tiger
I believe we will be running our d out of the Nicole a lot. Situation and opponent will dictate a lot.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:30 pm to Toughcrittercrumb1
Dunno. I would think Chavis would use different personnel sets as the situation dictates.
4-2-5 is TCU's base D and they have been playing as good of D as anyone the past few years against O's of all types.
In some respects that's what we've been playing personnel wise since Chavis arrived, i.e., using Harry Coleman and Stefoin Francois (essentially SS's) as LB's.
4-2-5 is TCU's base D and they have been playing as good of D as anyone the past few years against O's of all types.
In some respects that's what we've been playing personnel wise since Chavis arrived, i.e., using Harry Coleman and Stefoin Francois (essentially SS's) as LB's.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:34 pm to AlwysATgr
Mustang will be the feature package, it worked last year and don't expect chief to do away with that... BTW Hatcher will play LB'er alot more effective than he did at safety. He will be better at run stopping and covering tight ends!! Let TM7 cover RB's and slot guys... The defense shouldn't be a question though these guys will be in great shape.
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 9:35 pm
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