re: Any scenario - Orgeron is retained

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He's the 29th highest paid coach. Where do you get "big contract" from that?

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He should be paid like the 209th based on his coaching experience.

I just don’t see reason to fire Alleva and keep O for what is essentially a “lame duck” season. I get the money thing but if money is what you are worried about, keep Alleva too until you can get rid of him and Orgeron. Why pay his buyout too? Just let him and Orgeron serve out their “lame duck” last season and save the money on both.


Then go out and throw everything you got at Woodward and A big name coach.

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He's the 29th highest paid coach. Where do you get "big contract" from that?

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Considering he had no market whatsoever to even be the 89th highest paid HC, the fact that he's the 29th highest paid HC is somewhat absurd from a pure market value perspective.

That said, the ONLY way I see O going anywhere after this season is if:

1. He has a losing record or .500 record (winning zero of the "big games" in the process -- Miami, Auburn, UGA, Bama, A&M, Florida, are the "big games" to most LSU fans); AND

2. The recruiting class he is building falls apart before signing day; AND

3. Alleva is fired first.

Without those three things happening, O is the HC next year.

Starting with O's longtime media contact, Bruce Feldman, the "have some patience until 2019" narrative is being pushed. There's already been a few stories out that 2019 LSU will be a "playoff contender next year" even BEFORE 2018 has started. That isn't a coincidence. Almost all coaches/agents use the media to try to manipulate situations and the sportswriters are happy to oblige in exchange for the "sources" they need to do their jobs. O is leveraging this year's recruiting class (even though none have signed as of yet) as the reason to give him one more year. But if that class breaks down before signing day, all bets should be off.

Finally, King Alexander hasn't appeared to be apt to use the university's most profitable department (the athletic department) to benefit the school as a whole. In fact, he's used the money spent on college athletics as a negative argument in his never-ending quest to portray LSU as an entity on the verge of bankruptcy in an effort to exact more tax dollars. He's doing this despite the fact HIS athletic dept. is one of the few in the NATION that is fully self-funding.

With that mindset, as long as Alexander is the President, he's not going to take steps to maximize LSU's athletic dept, even though the money to do so arguably doesn't take from the academic side, at all. Even if justified and affordable, paying 3 HC's (two not to coach) doesn't present great "optics" when you are constantly trying to tell anyone who will listen that your school is "broke".

#fanswithsources

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that under almost any scenario, even just a 4 win season, that O will be retained.

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frick yourself

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even just a 4 win season, that O will be retained.

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He's the 29th highest paid coach. Where do you get "big contract" from that?

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it's all relative. The fact that LSU can't afford his buyout when lumped with Miles' and the potential new HC salary makes it too large of a contract.

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How the actual frick did Alleva give Orgeron that big of a contract.

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It wasn't Les Miles money. It's one of the lowest contracts in the SEC.

He’s going to have a top 3 recruiting class, they aren’t firing him.