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re: Any of you guys see this about an LSU baseball signee?
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:05 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:05 pm to ProjectP2294
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Second, yes, baseball has changed quite a bit
Why don't you list all the changes to baseball over the last 60 years. Its more or less the same game that was played in the 40's.
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First, you're an idiot.
If I had a dick I'd tell you to blow me.
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Hitters are better than they used to be,
Quick, name 10 current players who are better hitters than Ty Cobb or Hornus Wagner or for that matter Babe Ruth.
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:11 pm to geauxrebs
PM was on the Sports Hangover earlier, and they asked him about it. He basically said "no comment", but you can tell he didn't agree with it all.
He said as a coach, you have a responsibility to look over these kids and to look out for their future. He went on to say that this story seems to be getting a lot of national attention, and that he would hope the coaches reflected on some of the criticism.
He said as a coach, you have a responsibility to look over these kids and to look out for their future. He went on to say that this story seems to be getting a lot of national attention, and that he would hope the coaches reflected on some of the criticism.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:12 pm to Lester Earl
I mean the jesuit coach almost let his kid go over 200 pitches! That's fricking insane.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:15 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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Quick, name 10 current players who are better hitters than Ty Cobb or Hornus Wagner or for that matter Babe Ruth.
Quick, name ten pitchers they faced that throw as hard Kevin Gausman, Nick Goody, or even Mason Melotakis from Northwestern St.
That is how baseball has changed. Northwestern St has a kid throwing harder than every team in the 40s did.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:15 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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If I had a dick I'd tell you to blow me.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:16 pm to simbo
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Weren't many pitchers in the 40s throwing the type of heat
Yes they did. Perhaps not as many but they certainly were around in the 40's. They just didn't have radar guns to record the speed. Not many pitchers throwing today have the velocity of Warren Spahn. I once read where Cy Young's catcher had to put a piece of meat in his mitt because young threw the ball so hard.
This post was edited on 4/17/12 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:18 pm to Jay Quest
Catchers gloves sure have changed. Don't think they would have meat in them today
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:21 pm to bbap
the Jesuit coach used to overuse his pitchers when he was at Shaw HS too. He's always had good teams, never has won the real thing. Just American Legion. He's been chasing a HS state championship for a while.
funny thing is, im pretty sure his brother is a pro scout.
funny thing is, im pretty sure his brother is a pro scout.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:22 pm to ProjectP2294
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Quick, name ten pitchers they faced that throw as hard Kevin Gausman, Nick Goody, or even Mason Melotakis from Northwestern St.
Bob Feller
Johnnie Van der meer
Warren Spahn
Bob Gibson
Sandy Koufax
Satchel Paige
All threw darts
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:25 pm to fastedLSU
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Catchers gloves sure have changed. Don't think they would have meat in them today
True. Just making a point. Pitchers have always thrown hard. There are more of them today but flamethrowers have always been around.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:25 pm to Lester Earl
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the Jesuit coach
Probly a different coach now, but we played Jesuit in the '02 State Championship.
Ryan Martin (i think is his name) pitched the semifinal and final that same day. Both 7 full innings. Had to be over 130 pitches, easily.
We lost. F that guy.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:31 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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Bob Feller
Made his debut in '36, year after Babe Ruth retired.
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Johnnie Van der meer
Debuted in '37
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Warren Spahn
'42
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Bob Gibson
Born the year Babe retired
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Sandy Koufax
Not known as a power pitcher
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Satchel Paige
Did not play against at least two of the people you named.
You could have at least mentioned Walter Johnson and been somewhat historically accurate.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:35 pm to Lester Earl
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he Jesuit coach used to overuse his pitchers when he was at Shaw HS too. He's always had good teams, never has won the real thing. Just American Legion. He's been chasing a HS state championship for a while.
Latino and Jesuit won the state title last year.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:40 pm to ProjectP2294
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You could have at least mentioned Walter Johnson and been somewhat historically accurate.
I didn't make an effort to match up pitchers who faced Ty, Hornus or the Babe. I was only showing that hard throwers have been around for as long as the game has been played.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:41 pm to bayoujd
i thought this was his first year, stand corrected.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:41 pm to Sobchak
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Probly a different coach now, but we played Jesuit in the '02 State Championship.
Ryan Martin (i think is his name) pitched the semifinal and final that same day. Both 7 full innings. Had to be over 130 pitches, easily.
We lost. F that guy
yeah its a different coach. Martin was never the same. But he was a junkball pitcher mainly.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:42 pm to bbap
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you dont think its a big deal for a HS pitcher to throw 150+ pitches. I'll go ahead and disagree with that.
for one game? not at all
obviously it becomes an issue if this was done time and time again
i had opportunity to play Lutcher High School in the state 3A semi-finals. They threw the same pitcher for every pitch of their playoff run. Ended up being 4 games and 33 innings over the span of two weeks. Now that shite is overboard.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:48 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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I didn't make an effort to match up pitchers who faced Ty, Hornus or the Babe. I was only showing that hard throwers have been around for as long as the game has been played.
Walter Johnson was one of the first big power pitchers. He was topping out at about 91 mph. Or about 10 mph less than what Justin Verlander hit on his 131st pitch last night.
They may have been around a while, but instead of there being 7 over a span of 40 years, now every team has 12-14 on their staff with another 25 in their farm system.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:49 pm to ProjectP2294
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Sandy Koufax
Not known as a power pitcher
Koufax could flat out bring it. You don't average more than 9 K's per 9 innings or throw four no-hitters, or compile 40 shutouts in 12 years without being a blazer.
He also had 137 complete games in 12 years.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 1:52 pm to ProjectP2294
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Walter Johnson was one of the first big power pitchers. He was topping out at about 91 mph
How did you come by this information? There were no guns recording Walter Johnson or any other pitcher of his era.
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