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re: Answer 2 Qs. Is JJ worst BB Coach in LSU history? Currently worst in the SEC?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:33 am to Malaysian Tiger
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:33 am to Malaysian Tiger
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Maravich was the worse because he had the best player in LSU History and could only get a 3rd Place in the NIT.
Are you aware that back then only a handful of teams made the NCAA tournament, and I think a lot of it depended on winning your conference which had Rupp in it. Besides Pete those teams really didn't have much talent.
Jones has had numerous NBA players over the last few years and hasn't even been able to notch a NCAA Tournament win. It's a damn joke how bad he is.
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 3:08 am to radicalizedtigah
Probably not, I mean wasn't the basketball team coached by a football coach in days of yore.
Also, I mean we did beat Mizzou. So there's one team the LSU's better than.
Also, I mean we did beat Mizzou. So there's one team the LSU's better than.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:58 am to dj30
why did lsu let john brady go? he brought lsu to 2 or 3 final four seasons. i dont really follow lsu basketball that much because they so bad every yr. any ideas who lsu is looking at getting as their new basketball coach? why is coach johny jones getting paid 1 mil to cach at lsu? to do what? paying him 1 mil and not doing his job what he is hired to do
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:19 am to radicalizedtigah
Trent Johnson was worse than Johnny Jones.
Literally our last coach. Some of y'all have awful memories.
Literally our last coach. Some of y'all have awful memories.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:28 am to radicalizedtigah
TRUE ON BOTH COUNTS
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:45 am to BayouBengals03
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Some of y'all have awful memories.
John Brady - 5.5 out of 10.5 seasons with a losing conference record. (.443 win pct)
Trent Johnson - 3 out of 4 seasons with a losing conference record. (.391 win pct)
Johnny Jones - 0 out of 4 seasons with a losing conference record. (.547 win pct)
I get the feeling that a lot of you really have no idea just how bad we have been the past 25 years.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:09 am to CL8100
quote:you sure about that?
why did lsu let john brady go? he brought lsu to 2 or 3 final four seasons
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:12 am to T
quote:exactly. He hasn't had a bad season. Having his first four seasons without any under .500 is pretty impressive here. The worst thing that could have happened to Jones is get Bem Simmons here. It completely exposed just how terrible of an in game coach he really is and raised expectations through the roof
John Brady - 5.5 out of 10.5 seasons with a losing conference record. (.443 win pct) Trent Johnson - 3 out of 4 seasons with a losing conference record. (.391 win pct) Johnny Jones - 0 out of 4 seasons with a losing conference record. (.547 win pct) I get the feeling that a lot of you really have no idea just how bad we have been the past 25 years.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:23 am to radicalizedtigah
Yes and Yes.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:36 am to T
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John Brady - 5.5 out of 10.5 seasons with a losing conference record. (.443 win pct)
Johnny Jones - 0 out of 4 seasons with a losing conference record. (.547 win pct)
I get the feeling that a lot of you really have no idea
Brady had to clean up the mess that Brown and Jones created. The fans turned on him and he didn't have the strength, personality, or confidence to handle it. So he was let go.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:15 pm to roygu
JJ has a coaching job but he is NOT a basketball coach. So yes and yes.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:09 pm to radicalizedtigah
Jones has the benefit of coaching in the worst era ever for sec basketball.
The sec is pathetic in basketball.
The sec is pathetic in basketball.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Jones has the benefit of coaching in the worst era ever for sec basketball. The sec is pathetic in basketball.
This, I think those who tout Jones's record comparatively Re: the first four years don't really take this into account, nor LSU's basketball history, nor the shite shows most LSU coaches pre-Jones had to take over. You can't compare this in a vacuum, there are variables that are significant.
What is of particular significance for me as a lifelong LSU basketball fan is Jones's teams seem to not develop and get better as the season goes on and his program has not seemed to develop positively, with last year as a glaring, and embarrassing example with an internal implosion that doubtless still is affecting the players who are on the team this year and witness to what happened last year.
Do they really respect Johnny after being part of that fiasco last year? I find it hard to believe and from the looks of our defensive efforts for the most part this year I'd have to say no.
Is that something anyone honestly believes is going to all of a sudden get better outside a spot game here and there?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 4:49 pm to CL8100
quote:
why did lsu let john brady go? he brought lsu to 2 or 3 final four seasons.
quote:
i dont really follow lsu basketball that much
Clearly.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:04 pm to T
Anyone who brings up Jones' record vs Brady should recognize that Brady took over a team on probation and had scholarships cut. Not recognizing that is just being dishonest.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:29 pm to mmcgrath
I would say based on that list that Brady might be the best we've ever had. Going over 60% and winning two SEC titles and a Final Four birth in that situation he was in is pretty miraculous.
And for those who hate Trent so bad don't forget that horrific seed and draw we got as the SEC champs in 2009. First, we beat Butler in the first round right before that team went on a 10-2 tourney run finishing runner up two years in a row (and coming within a hair of beating Duke). Then we absolutely gave UNC more of a fight in that tourney than anyone else did. If Ty Law hadn't come off the bench fighting his injury we might have beaten them.
And for those who hate Trent so bad don't forget that horrific seed and draw we got as the SEC champs in 2009. First, we beat Butler in the first round right before that team went on a 10-2 tourney run finishing runner up two years in a row (and coming within a hair of beating Duke). Then we absolutely gave UNC more of a fight in that tourney than anyone else did. If Ty Law hadn't come off the bench fighting his injury we might have beaten them.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:45 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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And for those who hate Trent so bad don't forget that horrific seed and draw we got as the SEC champs in 2009.
Trent IMHO was an average coach at best who got Taz back from an injury to compliment Marcus Thornton and Chris Johnson who had missed more than half of the previous year, due to injury.
He was just such a bad fit here. He had a recruiting philosophy suited to Stanford and Nevada that was always doomed to failure here and he curiously chose to never fill the full allotment of schollies here. I also think as a talent evaluator he was very suspect. He abhorred dealing with the AAU folks which you have to do in this area of the country.
And he pissed Collis Temple off early (probably told him to mind his own business which I applaud) which in turn pissed Dale off and he lost a lot of the old Dale loyalists and that support.
He did get JOB3 and left Johnny a better situation than either Dale or Brady inherited for sure with at least a team that made the NIT his last year.
But I think despite his first year in which he inherited a fair amount of experienced talent, a good argument can be made that all things considered, recruiting and production, he may well have been worse than Johnny (two 3-win SEC seasons). I will say at least his teams played hard consistently, but the talent level was so bad his 2nd and 3rd year it really didn't matter....and that's on him.
But outside of Trent the first four year thing is a bogus rationalization when trying to defend CJJ and what our eyes are telling us right now.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:57 pm to radicalizedtigah
JJ may now be the worst JJ in LSU history, eclipsing the other JJ in terms of incompetence.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:04 pm to PsychTiger
Yes and yes.
Worse x and o bball coach I have ever seen. Most high school coaches could have won 20 games the last 2 years with our talent.
Worse x and o bball coach I have ever seen. Most high school coaches could have won 20 games the last 2 years with our talent.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 12:14 am to FriscoTiger
I doubt JJ is the worst BB coach in LSU history and probably not the worst in the SEC currently. However, he is the perhaps the worst x and o coach at least in my memory. Regardless, he is simply not that good of a coach to retain if LSU really has an interest in BB which all evidence is pointing in the opposite direction. 
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