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re: Anonymous opposing coaches talk LSU
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
59th, 70th or whatever, 440 yards a game is better than 402 yards a game. We have a worse offensive production now than what we had three years ago. That shouldn't please any of us no matter how much purple and gold glasses some of you have suddenly found. 
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:58 pm to TDTiger225
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Exactly how has he proven that?
OK, let's take another look at it then.
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Clearly when he was at Ole Miss, he wasn't ready for the job. At USC, he took exactly the same team and did more with them than the guy that he replaced. Same as interim at LSU. I'm not saying that he's proven that he CAN do more with less, but he hasn't proven that he can't yet.
I know that people want to dismiss and erase history regarding Orgeron's 3 years as head coach of Ole Miss. It doesn't work that way and claiming that "he wasn't ready" is laughable. He won 10 games over 3 full seasons with teams that had talent to go atleast .500 and bowl eligible. He clearly did less with more at Ole Miss.
He still lost 2 games as interim coach at USC and LSU. These were teams with rosters loaded with talent at the time he took over. I guess we can say that he did less with more here again. Starting to see a disturbing pattern here.
All experts who evaluate talent has had LSU's roster in the Top 10 since Orgeron took over in 2016. Over the last 2 seasons O has lost 7 games and his teams hasn't finished better than 3rd place in the SEC West. Once again, it appears that O is doing less with more.
After further review it appears that you are right and I was wrong. Orgeron hasn't proven that he can't do more with less. What he's managed to do instead is prove that he consistently does less with more.
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Also, why would we even want that? Guys that have proven they can do more with less are either bad recruiters or stuck in a bad recruiting situation. We want a guy who can do more with more.
This is just wrong.
The coaches who are doing more with less are very good head coaches at schools that lack the financial resources that LSU enjoys. These aren't coaches who are bad recruiters, they just coach at schools that are hard to recruit for being poor demographics and smaller recruiting budgets.
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Why not? Every season, coaches do things that they have never done as head coach anywhere. Should everyone in Norman have not been optimistic with Lincoln Riley?
You're just full of "why" questions aren't you?
Of course they have coaches out there who are doing things they have never done before as a head coach. The difference is that these coaches were successful coordinators who excelled at their previous jobs.
It doesn't matter how much you guys try to pretend O's Ole Miss tenure didn't happen, it did and that's reality.
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Should everyone in Norman have not been optimistic with Lincoln Riley?
Just Stop
Comparing Riley's accomplishments as an asst coach to Orgeron's is just ignorant.
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If you can't pretend to be optimistic, it's not because he hasn't done if before. It's because you don't believe he can, which is fine and even fair. After the disaster at Ole Miss, he's earned the additional skepticism.
I think we established by now that Orgeron achieving high level success for the first time isn't viewed the same as someone like "Lincoln Riley" who's trying to accomplish the same.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:09 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Based on what? How many yards passing in that 7 OT game?
I mean he had a 7OT game that inflated those stats.
From memory, Burrow had about 70 yards passing in all 7 OTs combined, but maybe Goldrush has a stat that shows the OTs "inflated" his stats.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:17 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Wrong
Right, you never held your tongue lashing out at Les. That's fine. The rub is when you now pretend you only had negative comments during the season which is nothing but bullshite.
Why is it you can piss and moan anytime you want but others shouldn't?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:24 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
Ole Miss is Ole News
LSU finished #6 in '18 and '19 looks even better.
LSU finished #6 in '18 and '19 looks even better.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Based on what
Are you really going to imply that a seven period OT game doesn't increase stats? As if 40 plus points didn't help our scoring stat and hurt our scoring defense.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:35 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:Talking about passing yards - either 71 yards or 75 yards depending on which site you refer to.
Are you really going to imply that a seven period OT game doesn't increase stats? As if 40 plus points didn't help our scoring stat and hurt our scoring defense.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Well in the Miami game he passed for 140 yards. In the Mississippi St game he passed for 129 so an extra 70 isn't insignificant for his total.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:51 pm to Goldrush25
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Well in the Miami game he passed for 140 yards. In the Mississippi St game he passed for 129 so an extra 70 isn't insignificant for his total.
Miami was the #1 ranked passing defense in the nation. And, a lot of QBs had more cupcake games than Burrow in '18.
A&M was a brutal game. OT rules were changed because of it. Burrow was passed out in the locker room after that game from exhaustion. Burrow earned those yards.
[and 71 yards was 2% of Burrow's 2018 total passing yards - "Inflated" ???]
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:04 pm to Goldrush25
lol look at the goalpost moving
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Ole Miss is Ole News
LSU finished #6 in '18 and '19 looks even better.
OK Jeaux, thanks...
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:24 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Miami was the #1 ranked passing defense in the nation. And, a lot of QBs had more cupcake games than Burrow in '18.
All I ever hear from you is excuses. He's facing the #1 defense in the country, the coaches aren't playcalling for him correctly, the WRs aren't using Jugs machines enough.
You sure do make a lot of excuses for who you think is the best QB in the country.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:25 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
“LSU finished #6 in '18”
Make room in the trophy case and print the shirts!!
Make room in the trophy case and print the shirts!!
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:26 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You’re right, but logic doesn’t seem to apply with these guys. It’s like watching the cable news networks. Bring on the down votes.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:28 pm to Goldrush25
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Well in the Miami game he passed for 140 yards. In the Mississippi St game he passed for 129 so an extra 70 isn't insignificant for his total.
Trevor Lawrence had off games, too. Does that mean Lawrence is a so-so QB?
Lawrence's not-so-great games in '18:
Furman -137 yds
A&M - 93 yds
Syracuse - 93 yds
Louisville - 59 yds
Pittsburgh - 118 yds
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:39 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
True freshman brother.
You think Burrow's the best QB in the country and you're comparing him to a true freshman.
You think Burrow's the best QB in the country and you're comparing him to a true freshman.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:45 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Lol
Furman- did not start
Texas A&M- did not start
Syracuse- first start 4 touchdowns
Louisville- blowout taken out early
Pittsburgh- blowout taken out early
Nice try lol
Furman- did not start
Texas A&M- did not start
Syracuse- first start 4 touchdowns
Louisville- blowout taken out early
Pittsburgh- blowout taken out early
Nice try lol
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:46 pm to Goldrush25
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True freshman brother.
And had far more time with his WRs and scheme than Burrow did. And his WRs were making circus catches all over the field.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
False
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:48 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And his WRs were making circus catches all over the field.
Didn't LSU sign the number 1 WR class last year?
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