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re: And just like that...
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:34 pm to Paul Allen
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:34 pm to Paul Allen
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He’s won one title...and that was 2009.
Exactly! He is a championship coach.
Care to name how many other coaches have won more than one since Mainieri got to LSU?...TWO. One was Pat Casey who got his 2nd Mainieri's first year at LSU and the other is Ray Tanner, who isn't even coaching anymore.
The point being? Our fans continue to expect today for someone to come along and duplicate what Skip did in the 90's, and the likelihood of that happening in today's game is unlikely. Blame it on scholarship restrictions...increased focus on baseball and resources at a lot more schools/conferences...increased focus on little league development across the country...hell, blame it on the bats, cause it sure seems to be a common excuse. But the reality is that parity is at an all time high in the sport (see Coastal Carolina...who??...winning a championship) and it is a lot harder to win the CWS.
The most that fans can realistically expect and ask for is to put a team on the field each year that can get into post-season play and CWS on a regular basis and then see what happens. And Mainieri has done that to the tune of having SIX national seed teams in a row and making the CWS at an average of once every 2 years.
The coach recruits, develops, and puts the best 9 out there. But by the time the CWS rolls around, it is way more about players executing at that point. Last year, LSU played well enough (most of the season/CWS) and had the talent to win it all; but Florida executed better and LSU caught some bad luck (pitching injuries) at the wrong time. It is just how the game is now, and you can't really ask for (or name) a better or more proven coach in the country right now.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 10:42 pm
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:42 pm to TigerLaw40
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Care to name how many other coaches have won more than one since Mainieri got to LSU?.
Care to name the programs with the resources to win championships like we have at LSU?
He underachieves pretty regularly in the postseason. That’s not on the players. Great coaches get the most out of their players when it matters most. PM’s teams do not play their best when it matters most. On the contrary they typically choke when it matters most.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:12 pm to TigerBR1111
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Care to name the programs with the resources to win championships like we have at LSU?
Let's see...how about every other school in the SEC, almost all in the ACC, majority of the Big XII, most of the Pac 12. Hell, even schools like Houston has the resources to compete at a championship level. Anyone who follows college baseball knows that resources are not near the hinderance to most schools like they were just 2 decades ago.
And as for underachieving, again, I'll ask for you to name the coaches who have consistently overachieved, or better yet, got what they should out of their talent? I think most would say that Kevin O'Sullivan is a great coach. How many times did he fail to get the most out of his players before finally cracking through last year? What about Tim Corbin? He was the hot "new" coach when he started turning Vandy into a consistent winner and after he finally won his natty, many said he should have won the next year to get back-to-back, but he fell short and hasn't done near what he should have with his talent last 2 seasons. But yet, many would gladly take him here at LSU to coach. Or maybe Pat Casey is more your style. You know, the one I named earlier who has won 2 championships, with his last being in 2007 (oh the shame of it all). Many felt even with losing his best pitcher before CWS last year that he still had the best team coming in and should win it all. And I mean, he has 2 natty's, so surely he knows how to get his players to "achieve" or "get the most out of his players." But that was before he ran into that hobo of a coach Mainieri and his LSU Tigers. But I guess in that situation, it was the LSU players just executing and the coach really didn't have anything to do with it, right?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:21 pm to Kim Jong Ir
quote:Isn't it amazing how many college baseball experts expose their ignorance on this board?
quote:
a sub-regional
There is no such thing
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:35 pm to Tigerbait357
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But we always are hot at the end of the season when it counts for the most part.
We will be fine
I agree that midweek games are generally BS but we are getting really close to the end of the season, they need to take care of business this weekend.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:36 pm to c on z
quote:You've posted this statement at least twice tonight in two different threads. But all you've done is make yourself look ignorant.
We are Mid week loss U for a reason.
LSU is 7-4 in midweek games this season.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:43 pm to LSURussian
I wish I could find the game thread from the South Alabama game last year, which was our 5th midweek loss of the season. Some really gold comments in that thread
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:56 pm to lsufball19
What's amazing is it's the same people every season spewing the same ignorant statements about Mainieri. It's like last season never happened.or the last 6 consecutive national seed seasons.
It has to be some kind of mental illness to be that miserable.
Eta: There's one of the miserable ones I'm referring to just below this post....
It has to be some kind of mental illness to be that miserable.
Eta: There's one of the miserable ones I'm referring to just below this post....
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:06 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:03 am to TigerLaw40
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:15 am to Bayoufightingtiger
quote:
LSU has way more resources
Please, tell me how that graphic shows that LSU has more resources? And if you say because LSU has more revenue or turns a profit in baseball more than most; then I thank you for showing your true ignorance.
Because what that graphic shows is that just about all of the SEC schools are spending the same amount of money on their program. You know what expenditures equal? RESOURCES! It’s money spent on coaches, facilities, players, recruiting, exposure, etc. Just because their baseball revenue may not be what is paying for those resources (expenditures), doesn’t mean that they don’t have the resources. In fact, it appears Vandy spends almost $2M more than us a year; and even TN spends more than us, and we see what that got them this past weekend. So, I guess based on that, I can put my own spin on it and say that Mainieri is actually beating schools with more resources. Damn! He must be one hell of a coach.
So try again.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:22 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:43 am to TigerLaw40
I'm not sure how you can't figure out LSU has top recruiting classes every year compared to those schools. LSU has a larger following than most schools. Therefore winning at LSU is much easier. Spending money does not correlate into wins. The program making money shows that LSU is above most schools when it comes down to getting kids to come here. Only a moron would believe all the conferences you listed with team is in the same category. I guess you gonna say Houston is on equal terms with LSU in football as well. LSU has numerous national titles and recruits itself. Those schools need to spend all the money they can just to even hang with LSU in attracting talent.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:52 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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LSU has numerous national titles and recruits itself.
How did that recruiting itself thing go when Smoke was the coach?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 5:06 am to cfish140
Stop comparing this team to last year's team, there's more differences than similarities. Also, just because this team has a similar SEC record at the halfway point doesn't mean the season will finish the same. LSU has three really tough road series ahead of them that could derail any hope of a regional.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:41 am to upgrade
It went actuall really well. PM took over a team with talented players
Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:59 am to Bayoufightingtiger
quote:Holy crap!! You just confirmed your ignorance again.
It went actuall really well. PM took over a team with talented players
Smoke left the cupboard almost empty when he was fired. It was one of the reasons he was fired.
How can you claim to follow LSU baseball and not know that, madking?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:11 am to TigerLunatik
quote:
And then how are Fontenot and Beck supposed to get experience in a pressure si
They wouldn’t. Which would bring up melting/bitch point number 2 down the road.
They Always gotta have that ammunition ready to bitch about something.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:20 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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LSU has a larger following than most schools.
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Therefore winning at LSU is much easier.
Ladies and gentlemen you are arguing with this ^
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:23 am to Michael T. Tiger
Talk about a buzz kill
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:25 am to Adam4848
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:26 am to LSURussian
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madking?
Lol. They do have similar ignorant posting styles.
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