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re: Am I in the twilight zone?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Damone
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Damone
quote:
Kirby inexplicably stopped giving him the ball
Nothing inexplicable about it. LSU loaded up on that gap and took it away. Chaney saw that and tried to move the ball in other ways, with limited success. Believe what you want.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:46 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Did they win those games? Not arguing UGA doesn't deserve some respect, or that Kirby doesn't have them going in the right direction. Chizik is asserting that UGA has separated themselves from the rest of the SEC and belongs in the same conversation as Bama and Clemson, two teams who have combined for the last 4 NCs. Do you agree with him or not?
In the same conversation as Clemson and Bama? No, those two are in a class of their own.
UGA has consistently been competitive with Bama though and has beat pretty much everyone else since Kirby's been there. They had a bad day against LSU. I say that because they've been pretty good otherwise. I'm not going to look at one outlier and judge them on that.
I value consistency. I can see why pundits like UGA.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:53 pm to Tigerpride18
You can't even form a complete thought and put it into words correctly.
One thing I've noticed about this place is how inaccurate people are on posting what was said in the media. Either blow what someone said out of proportion, or completely fail at the context and only post what you wanted to hear.
One thing I've noticed about this place is how inaccurate people are on posting what was said in the media. Either blow what someone said out of proportion, or completely fail at the context and only post what you wanted to hear.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:56 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:nonsense. UGA played Bama to within one play of victory the last 2 times they've played. We can't even score a damn point.
UGA has not distanced themselves from the rest of the SEC yet. They have won an unimpressive eastern division and not gotten over the Bama hump, like Florida did under McElwain. I think Kirby has them trending up and this may be the season that changes, but at this point they are not in the same conversation as Bama, same as LSU isn't.
UGA is far ahead of us. Yes, we soundly beat them last year. Hell of a win - but it was one game. You can do other comparisons: UGA whipped UF convincingly the last 2 years, while we split with them, with both games being very close. Got to look at the overall body of work, not a single game.
By the way, UGA and LSU were in similar spots a few years ago. Elite recruiting, nice-guy coach who won a lot of games but lost some they shouldn't. UGA and LSU both fired their coach. Good move by both.
But UGA has elevated their program substantially, and quickly. I'd argue we haven't done that.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:01 pm to Tigerpride18
It's really not that difficult to figure out. UGA is 24-5 in the last 2 seasons, and all of their losses have come against teams that finished top 10. They've got two "bad" losses, and won the rematch with one of those teams by 21 points. They've lost two games to Bama by a combined 10 points.
Their biggest wins:
@ #11 Notre Dame
vs. #19 Mississippi State (28 points)
vs. #10 Auburn in SECCG (21 points)
vs. #3 Oklahoma (CFB Playoff)
vs. #7 Florida (19 points)
@ #12 Kentucky (17 points)
LSU is 19-7 with a 30 point loss to State, a loss to a Troy team that finished unranked (at home) and lost two games to Bama by a combined 39 points.
LSU biggest wins:
vs. #10 Auburn
vs. #7 Georgia (20 points)
vs. #11 Central Florida
***UGA was rebuilding last year and went 11-3. This is why the media is swooning over them. They're stacked with elite talent.
ETA: Go look at the stories coming out of SEC Media days. Even when talking about how deep the SEC West is, the main question is can anyone actually challenge Alabama. If you don't think UGA's performances against Bama matter, you're delusional.
Their biggest wins:
@ #11 Notre Dame
vs. #19 Mississippi State (28 points)
vs. #10 Auburn in SECCG (21 points)
vs. #3 Oklahoma (CFB Playoff)
vs. #7 Florida (19 points)
@ #12 Kentucky (17 points)
LSU is 19-7 with a 30 point loss to State, a loss to a Troy team that finished unranked (at home) and lost two games to Bama by a combined 39 points.
LSU biggest wins:
vs. #10 Auburn
vs. #7 Georgia (20 points)
vs. #11 Central Florida
***UGA was rebuilding last year and went 11-3. This is why the media is swooning over them. They're stacked with elite talent.
ETA: Go look at the stories coming out of SEC Media days. Even when talking about how deep the SEC West is, the main question is can anyone actually challenge Alabama. If you don't think UGA's performances against Bama matter, you're delusional.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:05 pm to atltiger6487
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UGA played Bama to within one play of victory the last 2 times they've played. We can't even score a damn point.
UGA hasn't beaten Bama since 2007, with 5 meetings since. You can have fun arguing about style points or "being competitive". They have not gotten over the hump, and don't belong in the same conversation with Bama and Clemson as Chizik is asserting. I never set out to argue anything else.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:12 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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They have not gotten over the hump, and don't belong in the same conversation with Bama and Clemson
Well, in four years they're one of only 8 teams who have made the playoff, continue to be the top team in their division and vie for the conference, and continue to stack elite talent. They certainly don't have the championships like Bama and Clemson do, but they're right there in the next tier with OU.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:20 pm to Damone
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, but they're right there in the next tier with OU.
NO.... UGA and OU should not be in the same conversation... You do realize that OU would get crushed playing an SEC schedule ever year.....................
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:23 pm to RB10
quote:
uga was rebuilding last year
Ah ha! That’s why swamp king and the Tigers beat the frick out of them.
Rebuilding.
You fricking nerds are Gd disgrace and embarrassment to LSU fan base.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:26 pm to p&g
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Ah ha! That’s why swamp king and the Tigers beat the frick out of them.
No one said this. Despite your butthurt, UGA was rebuilding after losing 3 first rounders + Nick Chubb.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:28 pm to RB10
Cry me a fricking river.
LSU and every other team loses upper echelon players every year.
That’s exactly what you are saying. LSU won bc uga was rebuilding.
LSU and every other team loses upper echelon players every year.
That’s exactly what you are saying. LSU won bc uga was rebuilding.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:29 pm to p&g
quote:
LSU and every other team loses upper echelon players every year.
When is the last time LSU had to replace 3 first rounders?
quote:
That’s exactly what you are saying. LSU won bc uga was rebuilding.
It's not even remotely what I was saying. If you're seeing slights against Orgeron (Be honest, this is what you're saying even though he hasn't been mentioned) in someone saying Georgia was rebuilding after a national championship game appearance you have serious mental issues.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:43 pm to Damone
The question was has Georgia seperated themselves from the pack? I personally think LSU is better than Georgia. I understand why people would disagree but that’s just my opinion. One thing that we can all agree on is that Alabama is in a class by themselves and we are all trying to catch them. Georgia is not in the same class as Alabama.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:53 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
I agree with this. If you really believe Georgia is in the same class as Alabama then your delusional. It just seems this way because Georgia is in the East. If Georgia was in the West and had to play Alabama in the regular season every year then they wouldn’t make the SEC Championship and wouldn’t get the exposure they are getting right now. I’m not saying they are a bad team at all. They are very good but too say they are in the same class as Alabama is absolutely crazy.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:58 pm to Tigerpride18
no you are not in the twilight zone but maybe area 51
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:54 pm to dukke v
quote:
You do realize that OU would get crushed playing an SEC schedule ever year.....................
You do realize 2 mediocre Big XII programs joined the SEC and did pretty well, Missouri played in just as many CCG as they did In the Big XII but the premier program in Big XII would “get crushed”
Now the problem with your line of thinking is you treat the SEC as this singular thing and NOT what it is which is 14 INDIVIDUAL teams. Many will not Mizzo won the crappy East, which is precisely the point. NOT EVERY SEC SCHEDULE is the same. If OU was in the East instead of Mizzo the years Mizzo won the East they would have been doing the crushing at least until the SECCG. If they played Bama’s schedule the last 2 years they would have had a similar record to what they had.
ETA: you will respond with some idiotic comment about how I’m right the and SEC sucks
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 4:20 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:so if you and I try to climb Mt. Everest, and I barely make it 100 yards, but you get to within 100 yards of the summit before turning back, we're both the same quality of climber because neither one of us actually got to the top?
ou can have fun arguing about style points or "being competitive". They have not gotten over the hump
Is that the way it works?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 6:33 pm to YouAre8Up
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Because LSU is owned by Nick Saban.
No, saban owned Miles. And O is trying to get LSU's talent level back to where it was when we last beat bama. And he is getting there. Just like Bear owned Cholly Mac, and it took Stovall a few years to get LSU's talent level up to where we could beat bama. LSU would have beat bama in the 2012 NC game if LSU had a good OC. LSU would have beat them in the reg season in 2012 if they had a good OC. 2 years ago, LSU had a OC that came up with plays that confused the bama defense but LSU's QB couldn't hit a wide open receiver. It's taken time, but O is getting LSU there.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 6:34 pm to Tigers eyes
OU wouldn’t get crushed in the sec
Then would be the second best team this year
They are loaded
Many have them predicted for the playoffs
Then would be the second best team this year
They are loaded
Many have them predicted for the playoffs
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