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re: All I know is that Jay Johnson is going to fix it.

Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13456 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:59 pm to
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Never seen a team as loaded as Tennessee last season and didn’t make it. Arkansas was the #1 seed two years ago and didn’t make it.

Yeah and both of those teams were huge disappointments. And yes they were both losers those years.

You basically said “even if we underperform every year, it’s still nice knowing Marucci will save our arse”
I hate to break it to you but “being in the hunt” every year doesn’t mean shite if you aren’t able to actually win anything meaningful.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84836 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:00 pm to
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I don't blame Jay Johnson.

But, this can't be fixed.


Yeah. Not this year.

Jay never found a third starter, and the bullpen is what it is.
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6198 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:01 pm to
He can’t fix this. This pitching staff is awful.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:01 pm to
Haven’t O’Sullivan and Corbin had down seasons? They’ve had rosters better than this. Countless elite basketball coaches have had top rosters and didn’t meet goals. That’s with them being at programs for over a decade, much less jay Johnson in year two

What happened this weekend was a disaster but my point is that if it’s coaching Johnson will learn from it. We all forgave will Wade being 40 and growing but assume jay Johnson can’t grow. And he accomplished more at a young age than 99% of coaches.
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
3954 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:01 pm to
I said this last night. We all got caught up in the #1 ranking. Our bullpen was bad last year and this year it is worst.

He brought in several young arms and he will do it again this year. In two more years if our bullpen sucks, you make a move.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20190 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:02 pm to
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He took Arizona to the national championship so I’m pretty sure his ultimate goals work.


Ok so?

quote:

He’s won everywhere he’s been so I don’t see why that won’t be the case at LSU.


So any coach that has had past success will automatically replicate that in the sec? Lol
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1035 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:02 pm to
No it’s over. You lost a series to a bad team. And blowing a big lead like that is concerning. It over
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:02 pm to
I’m talking about big picture. I don’t think we can overcome the staff being this depleted. We are who we are and hopefully we get red hot.

What I’m saying is that if it’s wanaka or the recruiting coordinator or wes being the problem, he’s going to fix it.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13456 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:04 pm to
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It’s like 2008 Alabama football.

Holy shite, there’s no way you’re comparing Jay Johnson to Nick Saban right now
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:07 pm to
I am comparing the circumstances. I’m not saying he is nick Saban.

What I’m saying is that he walked into a roster with good pieces but huge deficiencies, made a splash in year two but came up short because it’s a process.

Insane to explain the parallels instead of assuming I think he’s going to be the greatest college baseball coach of all time but sure I’ll elaborate
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21854 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:08 pm to
I almost expect one fix will be to play for 2 wins in a series, and basically concede the 3rd.

Skenes on game 1, with probably Guidry and 1 other guy to finish.
Dump everyone into winning game 2. Start Floyd, go to Coleman 1st out of the pen, that should get you to at least the 7th inning. After that, go in order with your best remaining arms.

Let Little go in the 3rd game, unless you had to use him in game 2.

We don't have the arms to try to save Coleman for game 3. All that does is leave both him and Floyd in jeopardy of losing a good game.
Posted by LafTiger
Member since Dec 2008
1434 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:10 pm to
After pulling Money I’m not so sure.

Jay seemed to pull everyone at the wrong time this weekend.
Posted by Tblock
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2021
1417 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:11 pm to
I think he's made the team better. Now, the pitching is not one bit better than last year. Take away PS and we're below 500 in sec play. But all in all it's improvement.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13456 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:11 pm to
You know how many coaching changes have been made in the history of sports. You can probably find hundreds of situations that are similar to both of those and the coach ended up flaming out. You only chose that “circumstance” because you think it helps your argument, when in reality 2008 Alabama football is totally irrelevant and meaningless when compared to 2023 LSU baseball.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:12 pm to
Whether you like it or not we have to show confidence in Hurd. Hell I wanted him to start Sunday. But we have no choice but to stand behind guys that are toss ups at best and clearly mentally shaken up.

If this were our roster makeup with years to rebuild I’d be fricking pissed but that’s not the case
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15930 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
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What I’m saying is that if it’s wanaka or the recruiting coordinator or wes being the problem, he’s going to fix it.


Maybe the head man is the problem. He's all in on guys who can out slug the other team. Pitching, defense and base running be damned. That's not going to work on a consistent basis. And that is his history.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by ezraman1
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2004
849 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:15 pm to
Bruh. Cmon. You can’t “fix” talent that isn’t there on the mound or in the bullpen. It quite a disturbing and sad state we have. Best lineup/worst pitching is no bueno combo
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:19 pm to
How many coaches had their team #1 for 13 weeks in their second season? 2008 Alabama is a similar case and has a lot of similarities. How many other comparisons are there for a coach to make a team a national title contender in year two besides you know, elite coaches like nick Saban and Kim mulkey?

There aren’t hundreds of cases like this. It helps my thoughts because it’s a valid and sensible comparison. The two programs and years don’t have any connections besides the situation and circumstances of the season. Two traditional powerhouses with good coaches retooling and did it quickly but came up short. Is that honestly an outrageous example?
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3290 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:31 pm to
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There aren’t hundreds of cases like this.


You're right. Very few coaches have been gifted already developed MLB stars in Skenes and Crews.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31784 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:35 pm to
He wasn’t gifted skenes. He recruited skenes and beat out every school in the country for him. Also one exceptional outfielder doesn’t constitute a loaded roster.
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