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re: Alfred Blue vs Jeremy Hill

Posted on 3/2/13 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 10:21 pm to
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Is it just me or does blue run like tj yeldon?


almost identical running styles. Difference is that Yeldon is a little stronger and a little faster and will be a drafted in the top half the first round of whatever year he comes out
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 10:34 pm to
Like Blue out of the backfield especially as a receiver. I do think Hill is a little better RB, tougher and shifts gears well.

Nice to have them both. Still think we need to think about Hilliard at FB (i know i will get flack for this). He would keep LB's honest against the FB screen etc.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 12:43 am to
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Still think we need to think about Hilliard at FB


We have a big dude named Copeland returning who seems to do alright out of the FB spot
Posted by mcneil912
Member since Feb 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 1:17 am to
While a certain defender is assigned to pick up the fullback if he comes out of the backfield for a pass, defenses aren't going to scheme around it, no matter who is at fullback.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29346 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:53 am to
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HIll > than Lacy by a lot
Blue is similar to Yeldon but Yeldon> than Blue

Yeldon > than any back in college



I don't think Yeldon is better than Gurley and look at the guy Melvin Gordon from Wisconsin. He has a great combination of speed POWER, and vision. That guy will be top 3 in the league next year.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3540 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 7:35 am to
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Yeldon > than any back in college



Yeldon fumbled a few times this year and all Bama RBs are spoiled running behind those Olines. I could average 3+ yards/carry against some of the teams they play after eddie lacy and the Oline battered less talented defenses. I look forward to seeing how Yeldon pans out with the changes on the Oline and being the #1 guy. I don't intend to say he is a bad RB, but to anoint him the best in the country is a stretch after his freshmen year. He is VERY talented, but we'll see what he does next year. He will be successful because of a ridiculous weak schedule, but we will see if he is truly the next ingram/richardson.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 8:57 am to
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but we will see if he is truly the next ingram/richardson.


HOw in the heck do you put Ingram and Richardson in the same slash? Ingram was a very average back that truely prospered and acheived fame and glory by running behind a great college o-line against over matched opponents while it was and is obvious that Richardson is a true talent. To me it is obvious already that Yeldon is also a true talent.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 9:13 am to
Jeremy Hill is way more of a dynamic runner with no direspect to Mr.Blue who is a good runner but Hill is special.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/3/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Yeldon fumbled a few times this year and all Bama RBs are spoiled running behind those Olines. I could average 3+ yards/carry against some of the teams they play after eddie lacy and the Oline battered less talented defenses.


quote:



HIll > than Lacy by a lot

LOL

quote:

Ingram was a very average back that truely prospered and acheived fame and glory by running behind a great college o-line against over matched opponents


Most of Ingram's yards in 2009 came after contact. Good try, though.

Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3540 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 2:45 pm to
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HIll > than Lacy by a lot

LOL


I would agree that Hill is as good if not better than Lacy.

quote:

Most of Ingram's yards in 2009 came after contact. Good try, though


Ingram was a stud before his injury. He had the most impressive moves in space I've seen in a long time. He could shake you, accelerate around you or run you over if you were isolated. Ingram was better than TRich his Heisman season.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16178 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:16 pm to
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Ingram was a stud before his injury. He had the most impressive moves in space I've seen in a long time. He could shake you, accelerate around you or run you over if you were isolated. Ingram was better than TRich his Heisman season.


so you are saying an injury is what turned Ingram into a mediocre running back. What was this injury and why didn't the saints know about it before they drafted him?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16178 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:19 pm to
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HIll > than Lacy by a lot LOL



Why you put 'LOL'? You don't really see Hill as being an elite type of RB? From what I've seen Lacy and Ingram are fairly equal talents, maybe Lacy is a little better but not by much.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:20 pm to
Jeremy hill is prob the only difference maker we have on our team.

Most teams don't even have one.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3540 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:30 pm to
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so you are saying an injury is what turned Ingram into a mediocre running back. What was this injury and why didn't the saints know about it before they drafted him?


ingram

quote:

Ingram was ruled out for the season opener after undergoing minor knee surgery the week prior to the opening game against San Jose State.[26]
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3540 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 3:35 pm to
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turned Ingram into a mediocre running back.


never said mediocre, but not the same his junior year in college. The Saints made a mistake with Ingram because so far he hasn't lived up to the 1st round. I am holding out hope that he learns more patience running the ball in the NFL because he seems to rush into scrimmage before the play develops and the holes open.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15079 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 4:01 pm to
*If blue is 100% both are a threat to break a big one. It will allow us to keep them both fresh. I want to say that Blue catches the ball a little better.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57000 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 5:38 pm to
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Why you put 'LOL'? You don't really see Hill as being an elite type of RB?


I never said at all. I think Hill is one of best RBs in the nation coming into the 2013 season.

quote:

From what I've seen Lacy and Ingram are fairly equal talents, maybe Lacy is a little better but not by much.


I can agree with that.

I put "LOL" because Hill isn't better than Lacy, much less "by a lot". He very well could prove us wrong this year, but he hasn't really come close to accomplishing what Lacy did in his 3 years. Not saying that he won't, though. TBD.
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29346 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 5:57 pm to
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so you are saying an injury is what turned Ingram into a mediocre running back. What was this injury and why didn't the saints know about it before they drafted him?


I believe Ingram got his knee/s scoped twice(one before his final year at Bama, one after he was drafted by the Saints). IMO he lost all of his cutting ability and power. McGahee, Ridley and Peterson are the only backs I know(only been watching football since 2002) Who have come back as good or better, pre-knee injury.
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 6:09 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 6:00 pm to
Jeremy Hill has the best vision I've seen in a long time from an LSU tailback.

Alfred Blue is better at catching out of the backfield imo. But, I'd like to see both on the field at the same time to truly throw defensive units off.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29346 posts
Posted on 3/3/13 at 6:01 pm to
I don't understand the bashing of Lacy, he's a fast, very powerful runner when healthy, and has the craziest spin move in the game. I do not see Yeldon as the best back and I view him as 3 going into next season in the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/3/13 at 6:10 pm
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