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re: Alex Lange signs with Cubs for 1.925 million. Best of Luck!

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Posted by Mac
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:55 pm to
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Don't make me get my hopes up.


I'm going to be refreshing this page like its 2010 Zach Lee watch
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:56 pm to
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He was a supplemental pick this year,



No he wasn't

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he'd have to pitch balls out next season to be a mid-to-high 1st round pick... especially when teams know they can sign him for cheap due to his lack of leverage if he's not picked with the first 15-20 picks.


No he won't. Cole Freeman signed for almost full slot in the 4th freaking round or wherever he got drafted.

Posted by BIWO
Member since Dec 2015
1821 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:58 pm to
I figured it would be a fair assumption that he would improve his game with one more year of work. Do you think he would regress?
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:58 pm to
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5pm


Eastern, right?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81378 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Do you think he would regress?




No way of knowing, from an injury standpoint, but in terms of improving draft stock, I think he has pretty much maxed out where he is going to be picked unless he develops a new pitch in the offseason.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:00 pm to
Actually they just updated Cole Freeman's and he signed for 150,000, not the 340,000 that MLB initially reported

"The draft tracker did not have the appropriate signing bonus for Cole Freeman. His actual deal was for $150,000."
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:02 pm to
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No he wasn't



He was the 30th pick overall, but the 3rd pick in the first supplement round

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No he won't. Cole Freeman signed for almost full slot in the 4th freaking round or wherever he got drafted.



False, the slot for his pick was $390,000, he signed for less than half of that.

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Luke Johnson?Verified account @ByLukeJohnson 44m44 minutes ago
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The draft tracker did not have the appropriate signing bonus for Cole Freeman. His actual deal was for $150,000.
Posted by BIWO
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:04 pm to
Deichmann, Freeman, Robertson, and Poche all did.

Not saying he should come back, but is it not a fair assumption that he would also improve his game with one more year of work, which would in turn improve his draft stock?
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:05 pm to
He would also be a year older and have more innings on his arm, not to mention relinquishing what leverage he does have now by being an underclassmen.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Deichmann, Freeman, Robertson, and Poche all did.



They weren't first round picks the year before. All of them were picked in double-digit rounds, which meant there was a lot of room to improve...

And, outside of Deichmann who still had leverage, even though they moved up round wise, they still didn't sign for that much.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:09 pm to
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He was the 30th pick overall, but the 3rd pick in the first supplement round


Its not a supplemental round. It's a compensatory round. 30 teams. 30th pick. FIRST ROUND.

Sorry MLB got it wrong. Some kids in the 2nd round got almost full slot and he was a senior.
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:10 pm to
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not to mention relinquishing what leverage he does have now by being an underclassmen.


How's that leverage working out
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:10 pm to
Is the deadline today?
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:11 pm to
Thats what im saying
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81378 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Its not a supplemental round. It's a compensatory round.


It's the same thing.

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Some kids in the 2nd round got almost full slot and he was a senior.



You have a link for that? Even then, I can't believe you're arguing this. It's a well known fact that seniors get low-balled in the MLB draft.

Literally every LSU senior that was drafted and signed this year got significantly less than the slot.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15841 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:12 pm to
Yes, 4pm central
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81378 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:12 pm to
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How's that leverage working out


He was reportedly still offered between 1.7m & 1.9m, which will be more than what he'd be offered if he is picked in the same spot next year.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2250 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Not saying he should come back, but is it not a fair assumption that he would also improve his game with one more year of work, which would in turn improve his draft stock?


Fair assumption to improve, but when you are drafted in first round there's only so much higher you can go. Poche was drafted in the 14th round, I believe. The other three are all hitters that don't face the same injury risks pitchers do.
Posted by BIWO
Member since Dec 2015
1821 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:13 pm to
No one ever said it was a guarantee. Maybe you're pessimistic, but I'd assume one would improve with another year of work.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Literally every LSU senior that was drafted and signed this year got significantly less than the slot.



What round?
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