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re: Adam Rittenberg: LSU QB most mismanaged position in the last decade
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:02 pm to justice
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:02 pm to justice
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How did he do against bama?
LSU should have fired him. 3 whole weeks on the job and he didn't beat Alabama. Alabama sucked that year. I think LSU was the only game they won all season.
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:08 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:well if you are going to blow him for scoring points using Camerons offense then you should also accept the fact he called a terrible game against bama. Plus inside the red zone against a very injured Florida defense was pathetic. He did a bad job of calling cams plays those two games.
LSU should have fired him. 3 whole weeks on the job and he didn't beat Alabama. Alabama sucked that year. I think LSU was the only game they won all season.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:08 pm to lsu2006
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His stats are available to anyone who can google him. His 91 and 92 stats weren’t good. His 93 and 94 seasons were objectively good. Ensminger was there 91-93 as QB coach and passing game coordinator.
Facts are facts. There is no changing it.
But, be miserable and cry me some tears.
The idiot I was replying to was wrong and you stuck your nose in because you hate LSU. It is what it is. Deal with it.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:09 pm to Tiger Ree
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Facts are facts. There is no changing it.
Glad we could reach an agreement
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But, be miserable and cry me some tears.
The idiot I was replying to was wrong and you stuck your nose in because you hate LSU. It is what it is. Deal with it.
Uh... wtf are you talking about?
You are clearly way too emotionally invested in O/Ensminger to discuss this like an adult
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:11 pm to justice
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Plus inside the red zone against a very injured Florida defense was pathetic. He did a bad job of calling cams plays those two games.
The defense gave up the winning score in that game not the offense. There was a fumbled field goal, a fumble inside the 5 and a RB going the wrong way on the last play of the game.
But, if you have to hate and blame someone, go for it.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:12 pm to c on z
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Sims, McCarron, Coker all put up better stats than the LSU QBs of the last few years
Exactly my point
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:12 pm to Tiger Ree
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I know you hate LSU and all the coaches
I don’t know why O fans say this it’s obvious you are not an LSU fan just a fan of the coach.
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but there are some things you just can't argue without coming off as a total idiot. This is one of those things.
Bringing up 1 example from 25 years ago makes you come off as a total idiot
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Garrison Hearst was also coached by Slinger and said the when he got to the SF 49ers everything was easy because Slinger was running the same offense his whole career at Georgia.
As if NFL offenses haven’t changed.
I know plenty Notre Dame guys from that era sing praises of Lou Hlotz and how he helped them get to the NFL, I wouldn’t want Holtz as HC in 2018 however
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
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BTW 2011 LSU was very good on the LOS how did that work out?
Undefeated Regular Season
SEC Champs
And a rematch that shouldn't have happened. By the way, JJ beat Bama and both of our LOS's were pretty damn strong.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:16 pm to Tiger Ree
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The idiot I was replying to was wrong and you stuck your nose in because you hate LSU. It is what it is. Deal with it.
you can only offer 1 example from 25 years ago. Since then he hasn’t done anything and spent most of his time as a position coach because he wasn’t a good OC. So what was I wrong about? BTW I never said SE never had any player do anything
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yeah saying he helped Hearst adjust to the NFL game of 25 years ago doesn’t exactly speak volumes of Ensminger’s viability as a major college coordinator in 2018. Maybe if we’d hjred him in 1995 or so it would make more sense
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
Like I said, if you hate LSU and have to search for every reason they will fail you suck as a fan.
LSU does not need you.
Good luck with Bama, Georgia or whomever your bandwagon fandom chooses.
LSU does not need you.
Good luck with Bama, Georgia or whomever your bandwagon fandom chooses.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:17 pm to sicboy
The biggest issue was from the perspective of coaching up and developing the QBs, while also building the offense around the QBs skill set.
The reality is that nothing has changed in that regard under O. We still have no real QB coach.
The two years we hired one, the QB developed well that season. Unfortunately, both were RS seniors those years. Other than that, QB development has been atrocious.
Mett was a great QB, and the offense really helped him out. Once anyone struggled though, Les pulled things back and went conservative.
Etling was a mediocre talent and was coached up well by Canada. In the end, O let Canada go, and Ensminger has replaced him with no track record in the last 20 years of even mediocre QB development.
That is the flaw, and will continue to be, especially when you waste a coaching position like you do with O as head coach and having to have two DL coaches on staff. O can't help with any scheming or at all on the offensive side of the ball.
That is why LSU will continue to struggle and Burrow coming won't change that.
The reality is that nothing has changed in that regard under O. We still have no real QB coach.
The two years we hired one, the QB developed well that season. Unfortunately, both were RS seniors those years. Other than that, QB development has been atrocious.
Mett was a great QB, and the offense really helped him out. Once anyone struggled though, Les pulled things back and went conservative.
Etling was a mediocre talent and was coached up well by Canada. In the end, O let Canada go, and Ensminger has replaced him with no track record in the last 20 years of even mediocre QB development.
That is the flaw, and will continue to be, especially when you waste a coaching position like you do with O as head coach and having to have two DL coaches on staff. O can't help with any scheming or at all on the offensive side of the ball.
That is why LSU will continue to struggle and Burrow coming won't change that.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:especially REE. REE only likes LSU because they were the only school in America that would hire O as head coach.
don’t know why O fans say this it’s obvious you are not an LSU fan just a fan of the coach.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:19 pm to lsusteve1
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both of our LOS's were pretty damn strong.
I agree and whether the rematch should have happened is a different discussion (I agree it was BS) but it did happen and we lost because the offense in particular the QB was pathetic. You also totally ignored the comment that having a good qb and good LOS are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:20 pm to ChEgrad
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Didn't Florida think they did that with their previous coach? It is no guarantee.
Not all good QB/OC coaches can do it well while also handling the job of head coach. They aren't involved as much as people would like to believe.
Butterteeth was never going to be able to handle things at UF because he didn't have the ability to run the team and offense.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:22 pm to Tiger Ree
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Like I said, if you hate LSU and have to search for every reason they will fail you suck as a fan
Well you are wrong, I don’t think the HC is very good and don’t need to search to see he is a proven failure. It upsets me because I love LSU and know we can do better that these shysters
You are the one that doesn’t care about LSU and only roots for the coach
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:23 pm to sicboy
No shite, and you can lay all the blame on Miles. Case in point, Miles went into his last season with Harris, yet couldn’t see he would not be able to get the job done. Miles had Etling right at his disposal. Should have had Etling ready to go, but not Miles, he was an idiot. Had Etling gotten the spring reps and been given the reigns, he may still be the coach of LSU. Miles wouldn’t even consider brining another qb at this current stage, but coach O knows the quarterback situation is not good. The qb play in the Spring game was a disaster.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:24 pm to justice
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especially REE. REE only likes LSU because they were the only school in America that would hire O as head coach.
And is that the only reason why you hate LSU?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:24 pm to sicboy
I guess it depends on the definition of mismanaged.
Personally, I think that's a poor word for our QB issues. What we've had is overall below averag recruiting combined with a scheme that was oversimplified and, thus, very difficult to execute for a QB.
Personally, I think that's a poor word for our QB issues. What we've had is overall below averag recruiting combined with a scheme that was oversimplified and, thus, very difficult to execute for a QB.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:24 pm to Chimlim
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That's some seriously quality filled analysis there by Adam.
You got some evidence to the contrary you wanna share with the rest of us ?
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