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re: Academic scholarship and playing sports
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:08 am to go ta hell ole miss
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:08 am to go ta hell ole miss
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It is borderline unfair for schools in other states when competing against LSU, though
I would assume that other states have something similar to this. No way Louisiana is cutting edge in the academic department and has a leg up on the rest of the country when it comes to this. Tops seems to be in a downfall anyway, so it can't be as big of a help as it once was.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:08 am to go ta hell ole miss
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It is borderline unfair for schools in other states when competing against LSU, though.
Other states have their version of tops though.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:56 am to Geauxlden Eagle
I have always said we should go genderless with ALL college sports teams. Example: the best 13 boys OR girls get the scholarship to play hoops at each school. I get the impression that might be a little TOO fair for the gals in sports though.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:15 pm to dgnx6
Not Mississippi or Alabama.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:07 pm to tigahlovah
Does anyone believe that 85 scholarships are too much for Football at the Division-I FBS level? Personally, if Football was at 80 and Baseball went to at least 16-17 scholarships, it would make so much more sense.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 11:32 pm to TigerBait55
It's had to understand why the the scholarship limit is so so low for baseball. It's crazy to think that a bad arse starting athlete in a D-1 baseball team has to pay 60% of his tuition (or whatever his particular situation works out to be.). Crazy
Posted on 7/29/17 at 5:21 am to mikelbr
People are weaving/confusing the issue here. Head count sports (one scholarship = full, no questions asked) vs equivalency sports (percentages, broken up, very rarely if ever awarded 100%). Head count sports restrict the number that can be on scholarship (ex. Hard cap at 85 scholarships for football). There is no limit on the number of athletes who can be on scholarship for equivalency sports.
Yea athletes can receive academic scholarships on top of athletics awards - assuming you mean something other than TOPS. There are dozens of legitimate "scholarships" or mom & pop hometown scholarships that can be applied.
A huge majority (maybe dearly every) equivalency sport athlete will incur some sort of cost to attend - regardless of male or female (ex. Both baseball and softball).
Head count scholarship sports are Football (DI FBS only), Basketball (DI men’s and women’s), Tennis (DI women only), Gymnastics (DI women only) and Volleyball (DI women only).
Equivalency sports include:
All DI sports not listed above
All NCAA DII sports
All NAIA sports
All Junior Colleges
NCAA DIII does not offer scholarships but does offer other forms of financial aid
Yea athletes can receive academic scholarships on top of athletics awards - assuming you mean something other than TOPS. There are dozens of legitimate "scholarships" or mom & pop hometown scholarships that can be applied.
A huge majority (maybe dearly every) equivalency sport athlete will incur some sort of cost to attend - regardless of male or female (ex. Both baseball and softball).
Head count scholarship sports are Football (DI FBS only), Basketball (DI men’s and women’s), Tennis (DI women only), Gymnastics (DI women only) and Volleyball (DI women only).
Equivalency sports include:
All DI sports not listed above
All NCAA DII sports
All NAIA sports
All Junior Colleges
NCAA DIII does not offer scholarships but does offer other forms of financial aid
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:49 pm to Geaux Team Geaux
Question... Is the minimum scholarship 25% for baseball or for all sports?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 8:55 pm to INFIDEL
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Bylaw 15.02.4.3. This rule states that any financial aid except that which is specifically exempted is going to count as athletic aid and make the student a “counter” in terms of scholarships.
What is exempted?
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Academic scholarships for freshman may be exempted if the students meets one of the following conditions depending on the division: Division 1
Top 10% of the high school graduating class
Achieve a cumulative high school GPA of at least 3.50 Score 1200 or higher on the SAT or ACT sum score of at least 105
What are counter sports?
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Head count scholarship sports are Football (DI FBS only), Basketball (DI men’s and women’s), Tennis (DI women only), Gymnastics (DI women only) and Volleyball (DI women only).
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:29 pm to MMauler
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For football, if he gets in a game, he counts against the 85 total allowed.
Wrong. He is still a walk on. Whether he plays or not, is a moot point. He is still not on scholarship.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:39 pm to ByteMe
Whoever downvoted me, please explain why I'm wrong.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:52 pm to ByteMe
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A total of 20 Walk-ons are given to opportunity to participate in preseason camp to make up the 105-man roster. The only difference between these 20 players and the other 85 on the roster is the scholarship. They are considered equal in every other aspect.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:54 pm to INFIDEL
NCAA allows 85 Football scholarships per team.
105 players are allowed in fall camp, so these 20 players can be walk-ones, preferred walk-ons, or guys on academic scholarships.
After fall camp (beginning of the season) teams can have more than 105 players (NCAA rule 17.9.2.1.2)
At the beginning of 2017, BYU is expected to have over 120 players.
Teams usually dress out about 85 to 90 players.
105 players are allowed in fall camp, so these 20 players can be walk-ones, preferred walk-ons, or guys on academic scholarships.
After fall camp (beginning of the season) teams can have more than 105 players (NCAA rule 17.9.2.1.2)
At the beginning of 2017, BYU is expected to have over 120 players.
Teams usually dress out about 85 to 90 players.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 10:49 pm to BigWalt
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Teams usually dress out about 85 to 90 players.
Correct. There is no rule that you have to be on scholarship to play. This isn't rocket surgery.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:42 am to ByteMe
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Correct. There is no rule that you have to be on scholarship to play. This isn't rocket surgery
Hey ByteMe - what is 'rocket surgery'? You mean rocket science?
I was only providing info to the OP. Hey !!! Byte Me !!!
Posted on 7/31/17 at 4:25 pm to ByteMe
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Whoever downvoted me, please explain why I'm wrong.
Because the original question concerned athletes on academic scholarship. While there are some exceptions, it is generally the case that he counts against the scholarship limits in football and basketball if he plays. I'm nearly certain that he will be considered an initial counter (i.e. the 25 in football) if he plays within the first 2 years. An athlete that pays his entire way out of his own pocket does not count.
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