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re: About the Chavis buyout...

Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:33 am to
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:33 am to
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Think there was likely a clause that said verbally accepting a position would constitute a contract breach?


No, but there is probably case law that says this. I hesitate to comment on that since Louisiana has a French way of doing things which is different that every other state.

But again, their first hurdle would be getting a judge to throw out the liquidated damages(read buyout). Then actual damages would be much lower than $400,000.

A suit in this situation is a PR nightmare though.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:34 am to
I guess if LSU has a lawyer that wants to tie this up for a while just to frick with Chief it could happen.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3058 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:38 am to
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1 game? I know you don't follow LSU, and that's fine, but I can list about 3 games from every year (sans 2011-12) and show you where we have to win shoot outs. Instead of taking away those 2 or 3 games a year, how bout we take away the 3 rent a wins each year that we hold to less than 200 yards and see what the defensive stats look like?


Again, outside of exceptional defenses like your 2011-12 defenses and Alabama's 2011-12 Defense, every team is going to have the same issue. That's the real point I'm making. There's not a defensive coordinator out there with out games like this on their record. Foster has them, Muschamp has them, Saban has them and Chavis has them. It's the nature of college football. Even with Saban with #1 classes every year, you still have games like this. You can't point to them and say "see, this guy isn't elite" because then you eliminate everyone from elite.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:39 am to
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A suit in this situation is a PR nightmare though.


This. No coach would come to LSU if they sued a successful coach like Chavis on a technicality.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78300 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:39 am to
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As I understand it, Chavis had a buyout of $400,000 if he quit before Dec 31st, and LSU is expecting him to pay that buyout.

Is this correct? If so, what the hell is wrong the LSU AD?



Since he quite about 15 seconds into the bowl game i would imagine he should pay it.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24532 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:40 am to
Chavis went to A&M as a retirement plan.

Zero expectations there and you could pull a name from a hat and it will be an improvement there.

You don't really think he went there to play great defense with that offensive system, do you? Lol

LSU let him go. He left because of his pride, which comes before the fall.

I didn't expect this, but I definitely back the administration in this case.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3058 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:42 am to
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I guess if LSU has a lawyer that wants to tie this up for a while just to frick with Chief it could happen.


It could, but it would just be LSU's lawyer fighting A&M's lawyer. Chavis would be coaching and everyone in the SEC would use it in recruiting against LSU to make them look they are running off good coaches then suing them. The fact that Alleva lost his DC over a clause tied to the head coach is almost a vote of no confidence for the head coach. That will most likely be a recruiting tool for all opponents. It's a poor PR move by the AD... he needs to let is die as soon as possible.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27786 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:44 am to
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This. No coach would come to LSU if they sued a successful coach like Chavis on a technicality.


Wait until word leaks out about what the LSU coaches did to his belongings in the football ops building...
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76423 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:45 am to
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No coach would come to LSU if they sued a successful coach like Chavis on a technicality.


Not quite the same, but maybe more petty
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Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27420 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:48 am to
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LSU let him go. He left because of his pride, which comes before the fall.


Or is it LSU's pride we are seeing before the fall???
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24532 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:48 am to
The admins are rightfully not confident in Miles. Possibly positioning themselves to make a proactive move with a huge in state 2016 class out there, if 2015 continues a downward trend, especially at the QB position.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37070 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:49 am to
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Absolute bullshite, you have no fricking clue what wording was used in his contract
Why would a contract with a state university not be a public document? Isn't Les Miles' contract publicly known?
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 1:50 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76423 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:50 am to
Miles would have to have a truly poor year in order to be fired.

Two years and he is going to be convinced to retire.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3058 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:50 am to
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Not quite the same, but maybe more petty
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I remember this and never saw a resolution.... I wonder if they every settled it (which is what usually happens without a suit).
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76423 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:51 am to
No clue, just remembered hearing about it. Had to google to even get a name.

Thought I heard about some bad blood there or the way he left.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24532 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:51 am to
Miles has his fair share of it certainly, but LSU isn't too far removed from the days that the likes of A&M could beat us.
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:58 am to
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I guess if LSU has a lawyer that wants to tie this up for a while just to frick with Chief it could happen.


As an attorney I would tell LSU to suck it up, let the man go, and let LF7 run for 250 yards each game the next 2 years against his defense.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76423 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:02 am to
This isn't pro bono, they are paying.
Posted by Celtic Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
665 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:05 am to
Possibly, hell probably. But Dude. If the contract says the damages for breach are 400k, they're 400k. Since when is 400k just "frick it" money? You work for an OT baller start up or something?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89772 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:06 am to
Pretty sure the issue is his agent was negotiating on his behalf with TAMU without permission while also negotiating with LSU.

Rumor has it he told miles Monday night and they had an altercation. Which if true tells me that he denied the TAMU deal until he decided to take it. There seems to be a level of betrayal here that miles and Aleva are taking personally. They asked the LSU legal team if LSU has a claim and the legal team felt like there is a claim so they put it out there in the media.

Say what you want about miles but he is a loyal guy so if chief lied to him and Aleva it will come out. LSU won't be the one looking bad here, it will be Chavis for being duplicitous.

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