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re: A rematch in the NFL Superbowl would never never ever happen

Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:16 am to
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:16 am to
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why is it stupid


Apples to oranges. GB won last year at what 10-6? Saying ALA shouldn't get a rematch may be valid, but using the professional system to support it is not.

And then on top of that it's starting to look like some fans are crying about it. We beat them once as a road dog, now we may face them as semi-home favorites. This team will, and has beaten all comers.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:17 am to
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Not according to ESPN and BCS experts
friendly piece of advice: take what they say with a grain of salt.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:18 am to
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Apples to oranges. GB won last year at what 10-6? Saying ALA shouldn't get a rematch may be valid, but using the professional system to support it is not.


I am only using the NFL angle to show that 2 teams from the same division don't advance...only one does
Posted by Frankie Knuckles
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:19 am to
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Why, because I am make too much sense?
Actually you make no sense. In NFL there is playoffs and two teams from same division/conf. cannot meet in the superbowl.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:19 am to
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friendly piece of advice: take what they say with a grain of salt.


Well, they are swaying a lot of voters are they not?

You really think OSU gets in if they handle OU?

Assuming LSU beat UGA of course...

I take nothing for granted...LSU has to play well to beat UGA
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:20 am to
[quote]Actually you make no sense. In NFL there is playoffs and two teams from same division/conf. cannot meet in the superbowl.[/quote]

and you just supported my argument

thanks!
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29489 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:21 am to
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A rematch in the NFL Superbowl would never never ever happe


So tired of hearing about the NFL/MLB/NHL/AFL/CFL/etc. This is college football. There is an unique system. It doesnt compare to any other sport.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:21 am to
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How about the Giants and NE



That's actually a great one to point out why I'd never EVER want that type of system in college football.

Traditionally, we have gotten a National Champion at the end of the college football season that was sort of a crowning of the best team for the whole season. For a LONG time, it was strictly a beauty pageant with pollsters determining it in total, and without the ability to have top ranked teams play each other because of differing bowl tie-ins.

And then came the BCS.

We now have a system that allows for the traditional ranking of teams by pollsters (plus computers) but we are now not locked in to being given ONE team by the press as THE Champ. We have gotten a mini-playoff between two of the teams considered to be the best. It has, largely, protected the sanctity of the regular season while allowing for a championship match-up between two teams that may have a claim on the title. For all it's flaws, and I think there are many, I think it's the best system available...assuming you want to keep in tact what we've all loved out THIS sport.

On the other hand, we could scrap the whole thing, drop the ranking system through the year, set up a playoff system of some sort, lose the greatness of the regular season much like the NFL, NBA and college basketball and play simply to get into the post season...as system that can give you the Giants over the Pats or Villanova over Georgetown back in 1985 after G-Town had beaten them three times during the year.

They are both workable systems...I'm just not in favor of doing that to college football.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:22 am to
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Well, they are swaying a lot of voters are they not?
nope
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You really think OSU gets in if they handle OU?
they don't even have to handle them. all they have to do is win.
quote:

Assuming LSU beat UGA of course...
LSU is in win, lose or draw. if UGA & OSU win, bama could miss out on a bcs bid altogether.
Posted by Frankie Knuckles
Member since Jul 2010
2807 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:22 am to
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and you just supported my argument

thanks!
You're comparing the two which is not relevant. If what you're saying is you'd prefer a playoff system then I understand. Not trying to frick with you like most pricks on this site.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:26 am to
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A rematch in the NFL Superbowl would never never ever happen


you are comparing Apples and Avacados! different animal all together. but rematches happen all the time in the NFL ask Dallas And Pittsburgh
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51958 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:27 am to
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They also have a playoff system in place. Not an every week counts system


Every week does count.

Most pollsters said that Alabama had a very tenuous hold on their #3 spot even.

Then ALL of the other contenders lost.

Folks seem to be forgetting that important point.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:28 am to
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Assuming LSU beat UGA of course...

u dum
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:33 am to
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They are both workable systems...I'm just not in favor of doing that to college football.


I agree...I like the system over all...heck half the fun is fight over this stuff...but! it needs to work out so that it makes sense for the Nation, not the SEC power houses

How could this system allow Alabama in over other teams around the country with the same record yet having more top 25 victories?

I love the SEC, but come on...there is nothing National about this if LSU vs. Alabama play again after LSU plays UGA

It's retarded...no matter how good Alabama is or isn't...It's retarded to play them again in the title game

I would rather play them in the SEC title game

That would make more sense..but they are from the same division, so that can't happen..which means Alabama is out of luck if we are using your arguments

Protect the regular season, put the best 2 teams against one another in the MNC bowl game
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5159 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:34 am to
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Every week does count.

Most pollsters said that Alabama had a very tenuous hold on their #3 spot even.

Then ALL of the other contenders lost.

Folks seem to be forgetting that important point.


It was also being referred to as a national championship semifinal. The loser would likely not win division or conference. It was billed as an elimination game.

If it's not a playoff, it makes no sense that we have to beat them in a winner take all game, when we had to go in to BDS and won already. I think we would beat them again anyway, but how they go over a team that won the best conference this year is ridiculous. And there is no argument that the SEC is better than the Big 12 top to bottom. Our top is stronger, yes. But our bottom is much weaker.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:36 am to
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Every week does count.

Most pollsters said that Alabama had a very tenuous hold on their #3 spot even.

Then ALL of the other contenders lost.

Folks seem to be forgetting that important point.


I didn't forget, so the timing of the loss is the final verdict of #2? NO!


Bama fans say "They (OSU, OU, Stanford, Oregon) didn't take care of their business, we did"

LOL! Alabama lost at home to #1.... nuff said.., they didn't take of business when they had the best opportunity to do so.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:40 am to
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I agree...I like the system over all...heck half the fun is fight over this stuff...but! it needs to work out so that it makes sense for the Nation, not the SEC power houses

How could this system allow Alabama in over other teams around the country with the same record yet having more top 25 victories?

I love the SEC, but come on...there is nothing National about this if LSU vs. Alabama play again after LSU plays UGA

It's retarded...no matter how good Alabama is or isn't...It's retarded to play them again in the title game

I would rather play them in the SEC title game

That would make more sense..but they are from the same division, so that can't happen..which means Alabama is out of luck if we are using your arguments

Protect the regular season, put the best 2 teams against one another in the MNC bowl game


Like I said, I can see both sides of this argument. It's just what we've become accustomed to in terms of each sport.

There's a REASON we don;t freak out when we see three teams for the ACC or Big East in the Final Four and don't go running around declaring how they can't be NC's because obviously not all of them when the conference. It's because we've always done it that way. We'd see it as a travesty is Duke and UNC could not both be in the tournament because you couldn't have a non champ win the title.

We just don;t see it that way in D1 football, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I've always looked at the NC in college football as being the best team that year...not the one that got hot at the end and won out.

Both are systems that can give you a valid result...I just to like the playoff route for D1 football. I think it would change game to a point that would make it unrecognizable from what e have today. Some may very well prefer that...I'd vote against it.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:42 am to
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You are a fricking embarrassment to LSU, yourself, your family, and the goddamn entire human race. Please fricking kill yourself. Pretty please.


seriously, why do you have to make these kinds of comments.

I could go on ESPN and splatter this so called embarrassment and get 85% of America to agree with my logic as if they don't already. But ESPN wants this rematch most likely because they conceded the first game to CBS... I realize it would be an awesome game... but there are other deserving teams.

You think it's right for Alabama to sit while LSU earns the right to play in the MNC then so be it

Frankly, that line of thinking is an embarrassment to my intelligence.... and that's why I am speaking out about it...

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51958 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 11:54 am to
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I didn't forget, so the timing of the loss is the final verdict of #2? NO!



Who said anything about timing?

When Alabama lost, they lost the driver's seat to the title game.

Just because all of the other contenders also lost, possibly giving that role back to Alabama, folks seem to like to pretend that Bama never lost it....
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