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A reasoned approach from the AD . What it might have looked like
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:13 pm
Press conference on Friday morning
-we respect the press and their role in CBB . However we don’t convict people or institutions in the press and we don’t respond to the presses accusations and wishes.
- we have been in contact with the fbi , the sec and ncaa for some time and we will cooperate as things go along
- there is not a formal ncaa investigation ...Coach Wade has not been subpoenaed .
- coach wade , his staff and this team have worked hard under trying circumstances this year . They deserve the opportunity to work hard at practice today and play hard tomorrow to put a strong exclamation point on what has been a great season .
- LSU will cooperate fully with all parties investigating this matter and will sit down with Coach Wade briefly after the season ( or after the regular season , or after the sec tourney .. pick your time ) to further the investigation.
- any rush to judgement at this point is irrational and grandstanding on the point of the media. LSU has historically shown thatvit cooperates with all governing institutions so please back off a bit.
- I will take any and all questions until you grow weary and tired . Bring it
-we respect the press and their role in CBB . However we don’t convict people or institutions in the press and we don’t respond to the presses accusations and wishes.
- we have been in contact with the fbi , the sec and ncaa for some time and we will cooperate as things go along
- there is not a formal ncaa investigation ...Coach Wade has not been subpoenaed .
- coach wade , his staff and this team have worked hard under trying circumstances this year . They deserve the opportunity to work hard at practice today and play hard tomorrow to put a strong exclamation point on what has been a great season .
- LSU will cooperate fully with all parties investigating this matter and will sit down with Coach Wade briefly after the season ( or after the regular season , or after the sec tourney .. pick your time ) to further the investigation.
- any rush to judgement at this point is irrational and grandstanding on the point of the media. LSU has historically shown thatvit cooperates with all governing institutions so please back off a bit.
- I will take any and all questions until you grow weary and tired . Bring it
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:15 pm to Pmtiger
why couldn't the alleged meeting happen after the season?
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:20 pm to Pmtiger
I would also like to say even if will wade is guilty it does not mean he has to be fired. People make mistakes. It is time we quit throwing away people . He is talented and some loyalty shown will go a long way to him. I don’t see any criminal violation in the worse case and NCAA violations happen and are caught and handled without firing all the time.
Maybe that’s a little Pollyanna but business across the country allow people to make mistakes. Even big mistakes and support and invest in them understanding they will learn from their mistakes. Tossing talented people aside is not good for business.
Maybe that’s a little Pollyanna but business across the country allow people to make mistakes. Even big mistakes and support and invest in them understanding they will learn from their mistakes. Tossing talented people aside is not good for business.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:20 pm to Pmtiger
Alleva is setting us up to be a Patsy
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:21 pm to Pmtiger
You just spent 15 seconds typing a post. In those 15 seconds you have surpassed the abilities of our current AD.
It's sad, but that is how bad this stupid frick of an AD is.
It's sad, but that is how bad this stupid frick of an AD is.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:21 pm to Pmtiger
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Pmtiger
Send the board your resume.
No, seriously.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:23 pm to CBandits82
There is no reason . No good one that I can fathom and nothing anyone has told me that says otherwise. I don’t think it was Joe’s idea frankly to have said meeting ( I am not part of the allleged PR firm )
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:25 pm to Pmtiger
quote:
I would also like to say even if will wade is guilty it does not mean he has to be fired.
It would depend upon how severe any infractions they find are.
The NCAA could slap him with a show cause, making him unemployable for a certain time. And even if they don’t, if he’s done something that’s going to land LSU on probation for 3 years or more, I can’t see the university not cutting ties with him.
But if that happens, Alleva needs to go, too.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:28 pm to Godfather1
Like Roy Williams getting a show cause?
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:28 pm to BallChamp00
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Like Roy Williams getting a show cause?
I never said it’s fair.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:30 pm to Pmtiger
Someone literally needs to bash these two dudes heads in. They have ManGinahs
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:31 pm to Godfather1
quote:
he NCAA could slap him with a show cause, making him unemployable for a certain time. And even if they don’t, if he’s done something that’s going to land LSU on probation for 3 years or more, I can’t see the university not cutting ties with him.
I don’t really understand the implications of a show cause so I can’t comment. And sure there are violations that would warrant removal. But the reality is all violations can have consequences ( especially first time offenses ) that fall short of termination.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:43 pm to Philippines4LSU
How can we politick for him?
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:50 pm to Pmtiger
Fine.
Except that it ignores our own responsibility to independently investigate and assure that we do not take unfair advantage of any opponent due to our own violation of the rules.
And it ignores the fact that when Wade was called in for questions, he refused to do so without his counsel present.
And it ignores the prospect that we already have more facts than shows up in the press and it required action now.
They had to do what they did.
Except that it ignores our own responsibility to independently investigate and assure that we do not take unfair advantage of any opponent due to our own violation of the rules.
And it ignores the fact that when Wade was called in for questions, he refused to do so without his counsel present.
And it ignores the prospect that we already have more facts than shows up in the press and it required action now.
They had to do what they did.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:57 pm to Pmtiger
Can you please replace Alleva as AD? thanks
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:03 pm to Godfather1
quote:Your typical boilerplate "coach giving a prized recruit what he wants" is not worthy of firing him. And let's not insult each other's intelligence and say that any winning program doesn't do that.
It would depend upon how severe any infractions they find are.
The bottomline is that the NCAA simply does not have any proof. The particular conversation that everybody is saying is "the smoking gun" is not proof. Please. It can be broken down several ways. Unless Wade came out and specifically said "I'm pissed because I offered Smart $100,000 and he's not responding" (which he did not as far as we know) - then they have nothing on him. And for damn sure not enough to fire the guy even if he did say that.
You fire Wade, and not only do you get the same penalties that the NCAA is going to issue with or without Wade, but now you lose a hell of a coach, probably the entire team will transfer out, and any recruits set up for next year. You will set LSU back 10 years (if not longer) to even sniff a season like this year.
And no coach worth a shite is going to want to come to this dumpster fire of F. King/Joe Alleva running the show.
So if they do fire Wade, the Board needs to seriously take a look at going ahead and letting F. King and Joe go too.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:09 pm to nitwit
/Except that it ignores our own responsibility to independently investigate and assure that we do not take unfair advantage of any opponent due to our own violation of the rules. /
Actually i think it addresses your concern by saying why we are waiting until Sunday to further investigate and acknowledges the fact that we have been involved. The latest taps didn’t come out til Thursday. I think no one would suggest that an administration would be negligent by trying to get their act in order before meeting with an employee. I would always take my time on an issue before I call in the alleged culprit. I want to know as much as I can before meeting. So I don’t think this is an issue
/ and it ignores the prospect /
Not really. If they knew more , then your original logic restated above is awash because it means we investigated previously and took no action. If that’s the case even more reason to continue with the status quo
Actually i think it addresses your concern by saying why we are waiting until Sunday to further investigate and acknowledges the fact that we have been involved. The latest taps didn’t come out til Thursday. I think no one would suggest that an administration would be negligent by trying to get their act in order before meeting with an employee. I would always take my time on an issue before I call in the alleged culprit. I want to know as much as I can before meeting. So I don’t think this is an issue
/ and it ignores the prospect /
Not really. If they knew more , then your original logic restated above is awash because it means we investigated previously and took no action. If that’s the case even more reason to continue with the status quo
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