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A couple things to like about Ed Orgeron versus Les Miles
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:01 pm
1) He is willing to change. Unlike his predecessor, Orgeron is willing to change strategy, scheme, personnel, whatever it takes to get better. He and his staff are constantly looking at ways to fix problems they identify. Orgeron seems to say, "let's find a better way to do it." That's a fresh approach from Les Miles who would say "we're gonna do the same things with the same people, we just need to do them better."
2) He seems to get it that great teams are built from the lines out. He has mentioned many times his desire to recruit and build better personnel on both sides of the line. Miles was enamored with 4 and 5-star WRs, RBs, and DBs and failed to recruit top-talent big men and LBs. It looks like Orgeron realizes where his recruiting efforts must focus.
3) He answers the damn question. He may not be willing to give out info in some cases, but he actually answers questions from reporters and from folks during his call in show. It's a nice change from Miles-speak.
2) He seems to get it that great teams are built from the lines out. He has mentioned many times his desire to recruit and build better personnel on both sides of the line. Miles was enamored with 4 and 5-star WRs, RBs, and DBs and failed to recruit top-talent big men and LBs. It looks like Orgeron realizes where his recruiting efforts must focus.
3) He answers the damn question. He may not be willing to give out info in some cases, but he actually answers questions from reporters and from folks during his call in show. It's a nice change from Miles-speak.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:01 pm to Buda
You're going to get down-voted a lot on this one. 
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:05 pm to Buda
Where has Eddy proved any of this?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:07 pm to Buda
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1) He is willing to change
(insert bass drum joke)
Seriously, I'm sure him being a total disaster at OM has something to do with that. What choice does he have but to change?
Whether you want to admit it or not, Miles was moderately successful before LSU and even more so in the first half of his tenure here.
Unfortunately for him though, when you've experienced early success, it's difficult to realize that there may be a better way to do things later down the line. The game passes people by.
That's a little different from someone that's still trying to get his bearings in the world of head coaching.
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He seems to get it that great teams are built from the lines out
We've had plenty of good linemen in Miles tenure.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:08 pm to Buda
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3) He answers the damn question. He may not be willing to give out info in some cases, but he actually answers questions from reporters and from folks during his call in show. It's a nice change from Miles-speak.
Does this correlate to more wins?
If not, then who the frick cares?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:08 pm to Buda
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and failed to recruit top-talent big men and LBs.
Stop.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:09 pm to Buda
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He seems to get it that great teams are built from the lines out
Uuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm...our lines have looked atrocious so far.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:10 pm to RedTigerRulz
Apparently as long as the head coach admits that we suck, we are okay with sucking.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:11 pm to Buda
He does all that except coach better than Miles.
You left out the most important factor.
You left out the most important factor.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:11 pm to wildtigercat93
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Apparently as long as the head coach admits that we suck, we are okay with sucking.
The mental gymnastics are really entertaining.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:11 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Uuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm...our lines have looked atrocious so far.
While Miles' lines were usually the best things about his offenses.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:12 pm to Buda
As someone who was incredibly ready for miles to leave , the ed O hire was lazy, stupid, and as shortsighted as possible.
Alleva might as well just spit in the face of every LSU fan.
Alleva might as well just spit in the face of every LSU fan.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm to Buda
Willing to change=have no clue what I am doing.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:16 pm to Buda
quote:
1) He is willing to change. Unlike his predecessor, Orgeron is willing to change strategy, scheme, personnel, whatever it takes to get better. He and his staff are constantly looking at ways to fix problems they identify. Orgeron seems to say, "let's find a better way to do it." That's a fresh approach from Les Miles who would say "we're gonna do the same things with the same people, we just need to do them better." 2) He seems to get it that great teams are built from the lines out. He has mentioned many times his desire to recruit and build better personnel on both sides of the line. Miles was enamored with 4 and 5-star WRs, RBs, and DBs and failed to recruit top-talent big men and LBs. It looks like Orgeron realizes where his recruiting efforts must focus. 3) He answers the damn question. He may not be willing to give out info in some cases, but he actually answers questions from reporters and from folks during his call in show. It's a nice change from Miles-speak.
Hello Ed
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:17 pm to Buda
No matter what, attention to detail is what makes a successful coach. Understanding exactly what you have, don't have, and what every opponent has is a requirement to be successful. Not letting mistakes go unaddressed in practice. Being cognizant of the small things on game day. No matter what, I don't think that Ed O has this trait.
I am neutral on every coach until I see the body of their work. So far Ed O's body of work has a specific pattern that manifests from a lack of attention to detail. That is why after 2 years of frustration we will be in the hunt again for a new coach.
I am neutral on every coach until I see the body of their work. So far Ed O's body of work has a specific pattern that manifests from a lack of attention to detail. That is why after 2 years of frustration we will be in the hunt again for a new coach.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:20 pm to Buda
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3) He answers the damn question. He may not be willing to give out info in some cases, but he actually answers questions from reporters and from folks during his call in show. It's a nice change from Miles-speak.
Except when the phones are down at T.J. Ribs.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:23 pm to Broski
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While Miles' lines were usually the best things about his offenses.
agreed......And often the O line bailed him out on the sorry arse game plan we had implemented.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:24 pm to UpToPar
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Stop
Come on now. You have done a good job showing that the offensive line has highly rated recruits playing on it, but don't deny that the 2014 and 2015 defensive line classes were abysmal.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:25 pm to bountyhunter
I also might add. I know a couple of assistant coaches of Saban through the years. When Bama screws up and Saban looks fiery and pissed, it's almost always because it was something they addressed in practice and someone screwed up at their job of addressing it (whether it be the guy on the field or the guy in charge).
One thing that I thought was interesting about Saban's style is he does not get pissed at his guys if it's something they didn't work on or address, because in his mind "that's on him for not thinking about it first". Say what you want about him, he believes heavily in personal accountability and that's another reason why they are so successful.
One thing that I thought was interesting about Saban's style is he does not get pissed at his guys if it's something they didn't work on or address, because in his mind "that's on him for not thinking about it first". Say what you want about him, he believes heavily in personal accountability and that's another reason why they are so successful.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:28 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Alleva might as well just spit in the face of every LSU fan.
And that's exactly what he did, but the "he's one of us" clowns were allowed to carry the day as opposed to the, "frick no, we don't want O" silent majority.
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