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re: A bowl game win would make this LSU's best season since 2011. True or false
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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We lost the Peach Bowl that year though.
Had we won, you would have a good point. This hypothetical discussion assumes we win the bowl game.
10 wins is 10 wins. Winning a bowl to get to 10 wins isn't any more of an accomplishment than 10 regular season wins.
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:46 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
false
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:48 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
false
another year with poor offensive output
loss to FL- should have won
Did not even score against Gumps-
Loss to AM due to poor coaching
10 wins yes but the above reveals we have not turned the corner and still have coaching issues
another year with poor offensive output
loss to FL- should have won
Did not even score against Gumps-
Loss to AM due to poor coaching
10 wins yes but the above reveals we have not turned the corner and still have coaching issues
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:48 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I'll answer after the Bowl win 
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:50 pm to RB10
And perhaps if we were only looking at one data set, you may be correct. But most people consider a bowl victory and high ranking something to shoot for, that is a worthy accomplishment.
Perhaps you don't, and that is OK.
I assume you discounted the 2007 national championship, since we lost two games. What with the regular season record being all that matters and so forth.
Perhaps you don't, and that is OK.
I assume you discounted the 2007 national championship, since we lost two games. What with the regular season record being all that matters and so forth.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Sure but we went 10-2 in the regular season and lost to 3 top 10 teams.
We also beat #5 Texas A&M and #7 South Carolina.
We also beat #5 Texas A&M and #7 South Carolina.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:51 pm to SammyTiger
Apparently the poll voters didn't value that as much as you do.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:55 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Apparently They do, because the polls have us in the teens.
The CFP committee values something else.
And I dont Give 2 fricks where they put everyone after the top 4.
The CFP committee values something else.
And I dont Give 2 fricks where they put everyone after the top 4.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:01 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
And perhaps if we were only looking at one data set, you may be correct. But most people consider a bowl victory and high ranking something to shoot for, that is a worthy accomplishment.
Perhaps you don't, and that is OK.
I'm looking at all the really matters wins. 10 is 10.
You also have yo take into account that the 2012 team lost all 3 games by a combined score that was less than what LSU lost to just Alabama in 2018.
How's that for multiple data points?
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I assume you discounted the 2007 national championship, since we lost two games. What with the regular season record being all that matters and so forth.
I wouldn't post this for other people to see. It makes you look pretty fricking dumb.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Apparently the poll voters didn't value that as much as you do.
You do realize that the polls aren't equal every year, right?
I mean, to say one season is better than another because of ranking, without taking into account other teams' records from each season is ridiculous. Given your takes, I'm not sure why I'm surprised though.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:06 pm to The First Cut
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False. The Peach bowl was a lower tier bowl that had climbed to a lower-to-mid tier in those days.
The total payout in 2012 was over $7 million, which I believe was the highest of the non-NYD bowls. LSU and Miami were both ranked in the top 10 in 2005. It also had a sellout streak going back to the 90s, 2nd only to the Rose Bowl. It wasn't a "lower-tier" bowl in 2012.Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:08 pm to RB10
I care about the end results, and final ranking and victory in a major bowl are important for many reasons.
You apparently disagree and that’s ok.
You apparently disagree and that’s ok.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:08 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I assume you discounted the 2007 national championship, since we lost two games. What with the regular season record being all that matters and so forth.
We won 12 games that year.
No 10.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
2012: 10-3, loss in Peach Bowl, final ranking of 13
vs.
2018: 10-3, win in Fiesta Bowl, final ranking around 7
You're going with 2012?
Yes. Subjective rankings don't determine the season.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
2012 was a much better team BUT if 2018 LSU goes on to finish the year off with a win against Michigan in the Fiesta Bowl, it will be a better overall season as it will have ended on the upswing against a major opponent.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:10 pm to SammyTiger
But lost two.
My point is it’s the end result that matters, not how you get there.
My point is it’s the end result that matters, not how you get there.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:11 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I care about the end results, and final ranking and victory in a major bowl are important for many reasons
You care about whatever you can use to prop up the current coaching staff.
There's no need to lie about it.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:11 pm to Choot em Tiger
Not against a schedule that we had this year
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:12 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
That was his point.
He said 10 wins is 10 wins, it 10-3 with a bowl isn’t anymore impressive than 10-3 with a bowl loss.
You are the one who brought up a 12-2 2007 team to make, some convoluted point.
He said 10 wins is 10 wins, it 10-3 with a bowl isn’t anymore impressive than 10-3 with a bowl loss.
You are the one who brought up a 12-2 2007 team to make, some convoluted point.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:13 pm to nvasil1
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Yes. Subjective rankings don't determine the season.
That’s the system we have, so they literally do. Subjective rankings determine bowl placement, playoff bids, seeding, etc.
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