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re: 9 months later...how ridiculous was the BCS NC selection?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:27 am to Cap Crunch
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:27 am to Cap Crunch
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Because they weren't as good as the other team
Can you lay down some evidence that isn't purely opinion based? We play the games to find out who's better. Not just rely on fans and ESPN to anoint them.
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:27 am to Eighteen
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If you remove names of school this is what the picture looked like this: Team A & Team B
-They both had a loss, both in overtime by a field goal.
-Team A had a loss to a high ranked team, Team B lost to an unranked team.
-Team A had 2 wins over Top 25, Team B had 5 wins over Top 25
-Team B won their conference, Team A did not.
-Team B had a stronger SOS than Team A.
-Team A already lost to the team they would play again, Team B had yet to play that team.
In my opinion, Team B should have received the nod. Even if we had beaten Bama I would have felt the same way.
GREAT post.
Bottomline the SEC championship is determined in a completely objective way, while the BCS is determined in a partially subjective way. It CANNOT be questioned which championship is more legit, year in and year out.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:29 am to Cap Crunch
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Then why is everyone crying about the media sucking Saban's dick? The rematch happened because LSU and Bama were clearly the 2 best teams last year
What does this question have to do with what you quoted?
And Bama was not clearly better. Since Bama didn't play OSU, the only thing you can base that on is their resumes, and with the exception of who had the better loss, OSU's was better.
The whole idea of settle it on the field was throw out the window when a rematch of division teams was allowed to happen.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:31 am to Bombblonde
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Can you lay down some evidence that isn't purely opinion based? We play the games to find out who's better. Not just rely on fans and ESPN to anoint them.
Well as I said earlier, the only way to truly tell who is better is to have them play it out on the field, but I got laughed at for that
But Bama played in a better conference blowing out everyone on their schedule and only losing to the #1 team in the country. OSU struggled with more games and lost to an unranked team
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:33 am to LNCHBOX
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What does this question have to do with what you quoted?
Because the rematch was going to happen whether we liked it or not. We can cry all we want about how its unfair and that Bama got special treatment, but the whole situation worked out just the way the BCS is set up, and the same would have happened if we had lost the first game.
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with the exception of who had the better loss, OSU's was better.
That's a pretty big exception
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:33 am to Cap Crunch
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Cap Crunch
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If you remove names of school this is what the picture looked like this: Team A & Team B
-They both had a loss, both in overtime. Team A's loss was at home, Team B's loss on the road.
-Team A had a loss to a high ranked team, Team B lost to an unranked team.
-Team A had 2 wins over Top 25, Team B had 5 wins over Top 25
-Team B won their conference, Team A did not.
-Team B had a stronger SOS than Team A.
-Team A already lost to the team they would play again, Team B had yet to play that team.
In your opinion, who should get the nod?
Bama got in based on name and reputation, you can't deny that them being "Bama" and the push for the rematch didn't help them
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 9:42 am
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:34 am to Cap Crunch
Again. It should be who has the best resume. Not who lose more gracefully or has bigger wins.
Who is to say Bama wouldnt have struggled with osu's schedule? Point margerin doesn't mean shite when compared to high profile wins.
Who is to say Bama wouldnt have struggled with osu's schedule? Point margerin doesn't mean shite when compared to high profile wins.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:34 am to Cap Crunch
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Well as I said earlier, the only way to truly tell who is better is to have them play it out on the field, but I got laughed at for that
Probably because you're full of shite.
You can't say play it out on the field to decide when LSU already played Bama on the field. It's hypocrisy.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:35 am to Cap Crunch
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That's a pretty big exception
You're telling me that 1 loss is more important than 11 wins? That's terrific logic.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:38 am to Cap Crunch
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the only way to truly tell who is better is to have them play it out on the field,
You mean....like LSU and Bama did on 11/5???
So, you're saying LSU was TRULY better than Bama at the end of the season, right?
So why have a rematch to find out who is #1 if we already know LSU is TRULY better??
No wonder no one watched ESPN's shitty hand picked matchup.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:39 am to Eighteen
Well if those are the only stats I am given, I say team B, but I put a pretty big emphasis on the fact that Bama's only loss was to the only undefeated team in the country while OSU's came against a 6-7 team
But I think it had much more to do with them being an SEC team than just because they're Bama
But I think it had much more to do with them being an SEC team than just because they're Bama
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:39 am to Tiger Voodoo
I was using that to refer to Bama/OSU, but obviously that's not possible. So we can only speculate
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:39 am to Cap Crunch
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OSU struggled with more games and lost to an unranked team
This is OSU results last year...
W 61–34
W 37–14
W 59–33
W 30–29
W 70–28
W 38–26
W 45–24
W 59–24
W 52–45
W 66–6
L 31–37 2OT
W 44–10
Besides the 1 point A&M game, I'm not seeing much struggling on there.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:40 am to TDTGodfather
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i want to believe that we would've gone, but i don't know if we would've been campaigned for like bama was.
We'll never know, but while I think Alabama was better than Oklahoma State, had Alabama beaten LSU in Tuscaloosa 9-6, there is no way on Earth LSU would have been in the BCS title game.ESPN would have moved heaven and Earth to campaign against that and while you can't do much with the computers, the polls would have clearly had Alabama and Oklahoma State 1-2 with many ballots having LSU 4th or 5th.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:40 am to LNCHBOX
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Lol. OSU had a better schedule than Bama last year.
So in your opinion, winning the B12 (with a loss to a fairly mediocre team) was more impressive than Bama's SEC schedule, with a loss to LSU?
Not buying into it. The BCS got it right, just like they were supposed to.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:40 am to Cap Crunch
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But I think it had much more to do with them being an SEC team than just because they're Bama
Riiiight, if it had been Mississippi State ESPN definitely would have pushed the rematch.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:40 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Unfair, YES. Ridiculous, no. Last year it was very obvious who the top 2 teams in the nation were. We were the only undefeated team in the nation, and Bama was a 1 loss with only loss coming to us. It really showed the flawed system that is the BCS. We were the higher ranked team, but have to play an extra game before the NC game while Bama gets a bye?? Doesnt make sense. Bama got rewarded for being #2. That being said, it was the right selections. Just showed all the flows and issues with the BCS system.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:41 am to Cap Crunch
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I was using that to refer to Bama/OSU
Why Bama/OSU but not LSU/Bama???
DECIDE IT ON THE FIELD!!!!!.....(unless I still think the team that lost is better
) This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So in your opinion, winning the B12 (with a loss to a fairly mediocre team) was more impressive than Bama's SEC schedule, with a loss to LSU?
According to every ranking last year, yes.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 9:43 am to Tiger Voodoo
Well we had to play someone. Using that logic we shouldn't have played anyone
Look, my whole point is that the system picked the 2 best teams to play in the NC. It might not have been fair to us, but it is what it is. It was 9 months ago, get over it, and lets get some revenge on Bama on 11/3
Look, my whole point is that the system picked the 2 best teams to play in the NC. It might not have been fair to us, but it is what it is. It was 9 months ago, get over it, and lets get some revenge on Bama on 11/3
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