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re: 3 players drafted - Miles really left O with a loaded squad
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:38 pm to tibebecolston
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:38 pm to tibebecolston
Who was recruiting coordinator in 2015 and 2016? Who has been head coach since the 2016 season?
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:38 pm to Gus007
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Ir appears the criticism of Orgeron was unfounded when you compare the number of players drafted from LSU compared to the number selected from Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, MS State.
10-3 with this group of upperclassmen and against that schedule was very solid - overachieving. 2017’s season was clearly the opposite.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:48 pm to Damone
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Who was recruiting coordinator in 2015 and 2016?
Frank Wilson in 15
Orgeron in 16
But I don’t think you understand the role of recruiting coordinator. The position is tactical, not strategic.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:54 pm to The First Cut
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Where are they now?
Several in the NFL. Even then, you're blaming that on Les Miles?
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:56 pm to Ebridg3
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Several in the NFL. Even then, you're blaming that on Les Miles?
I’m talking about Miles’ last two offensive classes...
The ones that played in 18 and the few that will be left in 19. Offensively, few have contributed very much.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:56 pm to The First Cut
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The position is tactical, not strategic.
Synonyms.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:58 pm to tibebecolston
So are you saying that the guys who were “developed” under Orgeron didn’t pan out like the guys who were developed under Miles? You do realize this is the take that someone can take that would be far more legitimate than what you are trying to imply, right? Never mind the fact that several draft eligible guys stayed around who would have gotten drafted.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:58 pm to Ebridg3
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Synonyms
Negative.
Strategic management charts the course.
Tactical management decides how to get there.
In recruiting, strategic is setting the priorities, tactical is formulating the plan to get the targets that the strategic leader sets.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:26 pm to Damone
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Who was recruiting coordinator in 2015 and 2016?
You have a problem if you believe recruiting coordinators recruit, offer, and sign players. You believe it was the LSU recruiting coordinator who recruited JR and Flynn and not Saban and Jimbo?
Hell we should just offer Saban or Debo's recruiting coordinator and give him a Jimbo type contract.
Problem solved!
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:52 pm to Spider John
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we didnt have alot of players drafted
That's not it works...
Delpit, Chaisson and Phillips are O's guys.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:57 pm to Imber
Yep recruiting wasn’t miles problem, coaching was. Oh btw it looks like Miles is really tearing it up in Kansas recruiting......not
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:57 pm to tibebecolston
Do you mean when tug boat and O were working Aleva behind ole Les’s back and got the coaching job.
Yeah I remember when the D line coach and recruiting coordinator stabbed ole Les in the glutious maximus or a tad higher and wound up with all the guys he recruited.
Yeah I remember when the D line coach and recruiting coordinator stabbed ole Les in the glutious maximus or a tad higher and wound up with all the guys he recruited.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:59 pm to Dennis4LSU
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Yep recruiting wasn’t miles problem, coaching was.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:01 pm to Damone
Oh yah... I forgot the recruiting coordinator is the reason teams get or don't get good recruits... yeah right.
Miles had us at the most deficient talent levels since mid Dinardo era. He'd sign 5 WR's every year even though we went 2 TE and 1fullback 50% or more. What a garbage coach.
Miles had us at the most deficient talent levels since mid Dinardo era. He'd sign 5 WR's every year even though we went 2 TE and 1fullback 50% or more. What a garbage coach.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:02 pm to tibebecolston
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About like the talent level Miles started with?
I don't think you realize that the need to continually tear down Miles speaks volume to your true intent.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:23 pm to The First Cut
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But I don’t think you understand the role of recruiting coordinator. The position is tactical, not strategic.
Tactical and strategic are synonyms.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:26 pm to tibebecolston
It’s also because we only had 2 juniors declare, where under Miles they were leaving in droves.
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:35 pm to Spider John
quote:just think if aranda would happen to leave also
Next year our defense is gonna get gutted by the draft.
Lawrence
Fehoko
Delpit
Divinity
Chaisson
Phillips
Fulton
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:58 pm to the crue
Its always the same story. If a young guy contributes at a position, its all about O. If O doesnt recruit a freshman that can play right away and runs a few off at a given position, its Miles fault. Its not hard to figure these guys out. The bar was lowered in here the day O took the job.
That Miles guy won it all in year 3 right?
That Miles guy won it all in year 3 right?
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:02 pm to Spider John
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: Next year our defense is gonna get gutted by the draft.
And that is why O is going after some talent. Got to get that talent every year. He is bringing them in, he is getting it done. He is comin' and he ain't backin' down!!!
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