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re: 2nd Half Offense Broken down by Formation/Personnel/etc.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:56 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:56 pm to Prominentwon
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Without looking, didn't they call a pass play on their own 1?
Yep. 9 route to Dural.
We passed out of our own endzone 4 times yesterday.
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:56 pm to Prominentwon
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Without looking, didn't they call a pass play on their own 1?
One out of the 3-4 plays, yes. Took a shot deep. Wouldn't have mattered if there were 2 other receivers out there, because it was a play action designed deep ball for 1v1 coverage where Cam/Les thought we had the advantage. Would have never looked at the others. Instead, we gave ourselves 9 blockers.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:58 pm to mmcgrath
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:58 pm to NWLATigerFan12
100% awesome information
Thanks for breaking this down. Can we please keep commenting so that every person attributing yesterday to play calling or miles has to read it and maybe just maybe they will finally realize that while generally their narrative has some truth, last night was not the same
Thanks for breaking this down. Can we please keep commenting so that every person attributing yesterday to play calling or miles has to read it and maybe just maybe they will finally realize that while generally their narrative has some truth, last night was not the same
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:00 pm to Prominentwon
The fumbles were freak fumbles imo. The penalties killed a few great plays and always do. My biggest gripe about this team has been lack of discipline. Which has hurt us in bowl games too.
Our defensive secondary about lost it for us. We need a replacement for #2 because he looks completely lost on coverage.
Our defensive secondary about lost it for us. We need a replacement for #2 because he looks completely lost on coverage.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:04 pm to jbrau22
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Can we please keep commenting so that every person attributing yesterday to play calling or miles has to read it and maybe just maybe they will finally realize that while generally their narrative has some truth, last night was not the same
Those same people avoid these threads.
....and for anyone who thinks I'm taking up for Miles.....
Herman '17.
I'm just not one who blindly blames coaching.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:06 pm to NWLATigerFan12
quote:If we put a second receiver out there at least one defender has to come out of the run defense, eliminating the need for a weak or average blocker. Normally we aren't a threat to pass, but Etling had established himself by that time in the game.
When backed up deep, we put extra blockers...smart.
Once we get out of the shadow of our own end zone, we replace the extra tight end with another receiver.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:15 pm to mmcgrath
12 of 29 plays - almost 50% - rested on the shoulders of LF7. That's putting all your eggs in one basket. Should have at least 2 receivers lined up to keep the defense honest. We also have another bruising RB in DWiliams that could be of service.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:19 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Bookmark this or sticky for all the assholes.
Half of the complainers left at halftime and didn't see the game anyway
Half of the complainers left at halftime and didn't see the game anyway
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:19 pm to CableGuy
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12 of 29 plays - almost 50% - rested on the shoulders of LF7. That's putting all your eggs in one basket. Should have at least 2 receivers lined up to keep the defense honest. We also have another bruising RB in DWiliams that could be of service.
When the game is on the line, you put the ball in the hands of your best player. There's Absoloutely 0 question who the best player on this team is.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:19 pm to CableGuy
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of 29 plays - almost 50% - rested on the shoulders of LF7. That's putting all your eggs in one basket. Should have at least 2 receivers lined up to keep the defense honest. We also have another bruising RB in DWiliams that could be of service.
You dont put in wrs backed up in your own endzone when you have the best rb in cfb. My god. Can you imagine the hate Miles would get if Etling throws a pic backed up into his own endzone?
Can you imagine the hate if that extra wr misses his block and he comes free at lf?
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:20 pm to 7thWardTiger
quote:Exactly.
When the game is on the line, you put the ball in the hands of your best player. There's Absoloutely 0 question who the best player on this team is.
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:29 pm to CableGuy
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We also have another bruising RB in DWiliams that could be of service.
So your argument rests on taking the ball out of the hands of Fournette and Guice so that the slower, less athletic 3rd string RB can get touches?
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:42 pm to Prominentwon
#1 - you bunch of corndog mfers!! I didn't say to put in 2 wr's and pass while in the EZ. I'm saying in passing situations give your QB more than 1 wr target.
#2 - DWilliams may not have the speed of fournette and guice but he's every bit as powerful of a runner.
#3 - yes you put the ball in your best players hands but 50 fkn % of the time? it makes you predictable and how you get 2 fumbles.
#2 - DWilliams may not have the speed of fournette and guice but he's every bit as powerful of a runner.
#3 - yes you put the ball in your best players hands but 50 fkn % of the time? it makes you predictable and how you get 2 fumbles.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:46 pm to CableGuy
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12 of 29 plays - almost 50% - rested on the shoulders of LF7.
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runner. #3 - yes you put the ball in your best players hands but 50 fkn % of the time? it makes you predictable and how you get 2 fumbles.
You're also rounding up for effect in your argument.
That's 41%. So now 59% lays on the shoulders of your QB.
Who's shoulders would you prefer the game to be on?
Etling? or Leonard Fournette?
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you bunch of corndog mfers!!
This is what happens when you have no idea what you're talking about and proof is in the numbers laid out in front of you. These same people get angry because they're wrong and start name calling.
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:50 pm to CableGuy
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1 - you bunch of corndog mfers!! I didn't say to put in 2 wr's and pass while in the EZ. I'm saying in passing situations give your QB more than 1 wr target.
Proves you're dumb as frick and no nothing about how to coach or call plays. We were in the shadow of our goal posts. You don't give your QB more than one option in that spot. You give him one read, one wr, max protect blocking, and tell him to throw the ball as far as he can. You know you're gonna get a 1 on 1 match up, just throw it up, if it's picked, fine, that's like a punt. If your receiver catches it, great! If it's incomplete, you move on to the next play, and give your punter some room. The one thing you cannot due is take a sack for a safety. The second thing you can't do is risk a holding call in the end zone. 3-5 step drop ad release the ball as soon as you take the final step. That's how you coach it. Not give the QB more than 1 read so that the possibility of a sack/safety increases.
quote:he's not every bit as powerful as LF7. There isn't a back in the nation every bit as powerful as LF7.
#2 - DWilliams may not have the speed of fournette and guice but he's every bit as powerful of a runner.
quote:did you happen to see the runs LF7 was ripping off, as predictable as it was, he was gashing the defense for 6+ yards. That's how you finish a game. That's killer instinct. He had two very freaky fumbles. He probably won't fumble again for the entire rest of his career here at LSU.
3 - yes you put the ball in your best players hands but 50 fkn % of the time? it makes you predictable and how you get 2 fumbles.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 4:02 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Sorry, meant to upvote
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/18/16 at 4:02 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Good analysis. I think that Miss. State, like most teams, made some scheme adjustments at halftime, to counter what LSU was doing. It worked, and LSU couldn't counter and struggled, as usual, in the second half. That has been a trademark of LSU under Miles for several seasons. The Tigers didn't turn conservative. They just could not, or would not, adjust to the changes that Miss State put in place.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 4:09 pm to tigerborderjumper
How didn't they adjust?
I don't know what's so hard to understand about miscues and fumbles. Had nothing to do with scheme or adjusting. There were 3 drives where LSU was stopped by errors by the players. That could have been 17 points or 13 points. So you're looking at a 40-13 or 36-6 game ish.
That's the point of this thread. Had nothing to do with the games plan. Nothing.
I don't know what's so hard to understand about miscues and fumbles. Had nothing to do with scheme or adjusting. There were 3 drives where LSU was stopped by errors by the players. That could have been 17 points or 13 points. So you're looking at a 40-13 or 36-6 game ish.
That's the point of this thread. Had nothing to do with the games plan. Nothing.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 4:15 pm to CableGuy
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you bunch of corndog mfers!! I didn't say to put in 2 wr's and pass while in the EZ. I'm saying in passing situations give your QB more than 1 wr target.
Its ran out of that formation to almost guarantee man on man coverage on dural.
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DWilliams may not have the speed of fournette and guice but he's every bit as powerful of a runner.
He does not run with more power than LF and most certainly does not break more tackles.
You want to substitute a fast and powerful rb for just a powerful rb. Doesnt make sense.
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yes you put the ball in your best players hands but 50 fkn % of the time? it makes you predictable and how you get 2 fumbles.
Oh ok. I get now. You dont know what youre talking about
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