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re: 2015: Finished 10*-3 and the AD attempted to fire the head coach
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:21 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:21 pm to Lester Earl
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LSU would be in the same position they are in now if the CFB playoff was in place then in 2012. Not 2013 though more than likely
So now Bowl Games only matter when they fit your argument? Like I said before, give up while you're behind Lester.
Crawfishing on your stance for the last 10 pages is a bad look.
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:21 pm to RB10
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Both of those 10-2 seasons wound up at LESS prestigious bowls than the Peach, didn't they
And dude the chik fila bowl IS the peach bowl.
You mentioned beating conf champion auburn. They were 3-9 the year we played in the “peach” bowl. Gather yourself bud.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:21 pm to RB10
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We are talking about the guy who equates 2018 Ole Miss and Arkansas to 2015 Ole Miss and Arkansas.
I know.
2015 10th ranked Ole Miss (10-3 record and 6-2 SEC record) and 2015 Arkansas (8-5 record and 5-3 SEC record) are terrible losses in Lester's eyes. But beating 2018 Ole Miss (5-7 record and 1-7 SEC record) and Arkansas (2-10 record and 0-8 SEC record) are tremendous accomplishments according to Lester. And let's not forget how Lester brought up Ole Miss losing to a 9-4 Memphis program and Arkansas losing to a 10-2 Toledo program. Totally unacceptable and proves (at least in Lester's eyes) that both Ole Miss and Arkansas were shite programs in 2015.
But LSU losing to Troy in 2017 means nothing and could happen to anybody.
But hey, we finished 9-3 and in 3rd place in the SEC West, and we're heading to the Fiesta Bowl.
Thank God College Football is so watered down that something like this can occur. :lol:
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:23 pm to Lester Earl
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And dude the chik fila bowl IS the peach bowl.
Reduced to arguing semantics rather than the point being presented? Oh my.
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You mentioned beating conf champion auburn. They were 3-9 the year we played in the “peach” bowl. Gather yourself bud.
They were 13-1 and SEC Champion in 2013. Was 2018 a better season than 2013 as well?
Better bowl, after all.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:24 pm to earl keese
I hope this thread never dies.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:24 pm to RB10
I look at it as a stock. We were trending down in 2015. Right now, in spite of some hiccups in the marketplace, we are holding steady with an opportunity to make bank. If our broker (Coach O) fails us, it's time to go in a different direction.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:25 pm to jimmy the leg
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I look at it as a stock. We were trending down in 2015.
Going from 8-5 to 9-3 is trending down? If that's the case shouldn't you consider LSU to be trending down now? From 6-2 to 5-3 in the SEC is a factor is this, is it not?
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Right now, in spite of some hiccups in the marketplace, we are holding steady with an opportunity to make bank. If our broker (Coach O) fails us, it's time to go in a different direction.
Can't disagree with this. Question is whether status quo is now good enough. It is for Lester, apparently.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:27 pm to RB10
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So now Bowl Games only matter when they fit your argument? Like I said before, give up while you're behind Lester.
Bowl games are much more easily compared when working under the same playoff rules, like 15’ vs 18’.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:28 pm to Lester Earl
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Bowl games are much more easily compared when working under the same playoff rules, like 15’ vs 18’.
Why is that? Is it because there's a different number of bowls? Can't be, because there isn't.
What's the logic behind this new narrative?
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:29 pm to RB10
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Oh I know. His opinions, with no valid facts to back them up, are just correct. if you can't understand it, you're just not smart enough.
You've just described Lester to a T.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:31 pm to earl keese
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You've just described Lester to a T.
What's great about this thread is it's 42 pages and Lester has been involved in just about every one of them. Out of all of these posts, he has yet to provide a single verifiable fact. He's, literally, only given opinions.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:33 pm to TigerLunatik
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I hope this thread never dies.
It just keeps chugging along.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:34 pm to RB10
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Why is that? Is it because there's a different number of bowls? Can't be, because there isn't.
The bowl tie-ins were changed once the CFB playoff came into affect & the BCS was dismantled in 2014.
you really don't know this?
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:35 pm to Lester Earl
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The bowl tie-ins were changed once the CFB playoff came into affect & the BCS was dismantled in 2014.
you really don't know this?
These bowl tie ins would take LSU from the Capital One Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl huh?
I'm sure you've got something, anything really, to prove this stance. We will all wait for that proof. There's no way you're creating another new angle with nothing but your opinion to support it. There's just no way you're that obtuse.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:37 pm to RB10
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Going from 8-5 to 9-3 is trending down? If that's the case shouldn't you consider LSU to be trending down now? From 6-2 to 5-3 in the SEC is a factor is this, is it not?
Enron looked great at some point. So did Globodyne. The wheels were falling off (November) and we should have been wise enough to bail. As for now...we are holding steady. That being said, either the stock (our current LSU squad) pays dividends or we go in a different direction. As of now, I'm not ready to sell.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:38 pm to jimmy the leg
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Enron looked great at some point. So did Globodyne. The wheels were falling off (November) and we should have been wise enough to bail.
Hmm
Kind of like getting worse on both offense and defense from one season to the next? I'd advise you to not look at the numbers from 2017 to 2018.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:41 pm to RB10
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Out of all of these posts, he has yet to provide a single verifiable fact. He's, literally, only given opinions.
Well, I've read enough of Lester's posts over the past few years to realize he thinks his opinions are facts.
A few pages back, I commented to him that, under o, we've finished the last 2 regular seasons with 9-3 records and finished 3rd in the west and that we were no closer to a championship game appearance then we were when Miles was still the coach. He said that my argument was false.
What a loon.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:46 pm to Lester Earl
Next year will be ugly. We have a weaker SOS again and a lot of talent returning so we should have no excuses for anything less than 11-1 with either a playoff appearance or a Georgia style near-miss
What I think will probably happen though is we will go 9-3 again and the fanboys will tell us how we’re trending up and how Orgeron is righting the ship as it’s slowly leaking
I’m glad the man is competent enough to keep the program from imploding overnight but it’s frustrating watching the depth on our lineup evaporate and having the previous coach get all of the blame for players leaving when they saw who the current coach is
What I think will probably happen though is we will go 9-3 again and the fanboys will tell us how we’re trending up and how Orgeron is righting the ship as it’s slowly leaking
I’m glad the man is competent enough to keep the program from imploding overnight but it’s frustrating watching the depth on our lineup evaporate and having the previous coach get all of the blame for players leaving when they saw who the current coach is
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:46 pm to RB10
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I'd advise you to not look at the numbers from 2017 to 2018
Were the schedule and players identical? If not, then why bother?
To paraphrase Mark Twain..."there are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics". As stated, the "stock" is holding value in spite of the AnM frick job. If it doesn't improve next year, it is time to sell. Just my .02.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 3:47 pm to RB10
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These bowl tie ins would take LSU from the Capital One Bowl to the Fiesta Bowl huh?
I'm sure you've got something, anything really, to prove this stance. We will all wait for that proof. There's no way you're creating another new angle with nothing but your opinion to support it. There's just no way you're that obtuse.
I mean if you really don't know this, shame on you.
-There are 6 NY6 bowl games
-The top 4 teams in the CFB rankings play in a playoff
That leaves 4 bowl games. When conference champions are in the playoff, then the highest ranked available teams get the bids into the other 4 bowl games.
In the case of the 2012 season, LSU entered the final polls at #9. Take away the 4 teams in the playoffs, and they are the 5th ranked team vying for 8 total spots in NY6 bowl games. That is how a team that went to the Chik Fila bowl could play in a NY6 bowl today.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 3:49 pm
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