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re: 2011 SEC Outdoor TRACK & FIELD Championships
Posted on 5/15/11 at 3:27 pm to tigerbait2010
Posted on 5/15/11 at 3:27 pm to tigerbait2010
1,2 finish in the women's 200 to secure the title for the Lady Tigers!
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Posted on 5/15/11 at 4:41 pm to TheSexecutioner
Men DQ'd in the 4x4. Winning would have put us in a tie for 3rd. Instead we are 4th on the Mens
Congrats to the women for dominating
Congrats to the women for dominating
Posted on 5/15/11 at 4:41 pm to MCrun2
Shaver has not improved the men's program
Posted on 5/15/11 at 6:41 pm to MC5601
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Shaver has not improved the men's program
This may be true. But could ANYONE have improved it from what Pat Henry did? Your statement seems a little irrelevant. Henry is one of the two best NCAA track coaches in history. He is top 10 counting all sports. Those shoes cannot be filled.
Posted on 5/15/11 at 7:45 pm to MC5601
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Shaver has not improved the men's program
A bit premature for this. LSU is a team built for NCAA's, not SEC. All of those easy points Arkansas was getting in the distance events will go away at nationals. Florida will still score a lot of points but not nearly as many. LSU doesn't have the depth to keep up with those teams in a small meet, but in a big meet with low scores we do.
It usually takes 55-60 points to win Men's Nationals. It is conceivable that we could get that. Realistic best case for us would be as follows...
4x1 Relay- 2nd place - 8 points
4x4 Relay- 3rd place - 6 points
110 Hurles-1st place - 10 points
Hammer - 2nd place - 8 points
Triple Jump - 4th place - 5 points
Those are our very good events. To win we would need some of these to come up big....
Pole Vault - 0-6 points
Long Jump - 0-4 points
200 Meters - 0-8 points
Longshot events that would really help. If our guys run over their heads, we could maybe pick up 5 between these 2 events
400 Meters
100 Meters
Add up the best case senarios for all of these events and you get 57 points. Now, there are things we have to avoid to have a chance like Florida scoring 20+ in the triple jump or their miler winning or Texas AM scoring 20 in the 400m
This post was edited on 5/15/11 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/16/11 at 5:19 am to TheSexecutioner
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That's not several. That's two. And those two are both highly recruited by big colleges. Where do you think these college athletes come from? Not that hard to grasp that the top 2 high school kids in any event in the whole state should be collegiate level.
Regardless of whether it's several or two, the point I made was that it's not nuts to think HS kids could compete in the SEC T&F championships. That said, Sylve in the 100, Cox in the Jav, and Duplantis in the PV could all compete in the SEC as well. Those three in addition to the other 2 make several in my book.
This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 5:32 am
Posted on 5/16/11 at 8:46 am to MCrun2
quote:Why were they disqualified? Do you know?
Men DQ'd in the 4x4.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 1:44 pm to GRIZZ
Alright, so there might be 4 kids(not Sylve) in the whole state, girls and boys, who could have placed in the SEC meet. What is unusual about that? Its not unheard of to have basketball players (e.g. Greg Monroe, Semoine Augustus) who could start for any college team in the nation as high schoolers. Those are the kids who end up being college stars.
Most of these guys placing in the SEC were studs in high school. Plenty of them could run almost as fast as they do now in high school. A lot of 18 year olds are full grown and maxed out on how fast they'll get.
I just don't understand how it's reflective of the talent level to have a couple of college level kids running in high school. The only weak events in the SEC are the distance events, and they are far weaker in Louisiana high school. By your logic, the Big Ten sucked Lebron James' senior year of high school because a high schooler was far better than the whole league
Most of these guys placing in the SEC were studs in high school. Plenty of them could run almost as fast as they do now in high school. A lot of 18 year olds are full grown and maxed out on how fast they'll get.
I just don't understand how it's reflective of the talent level to have a couple of college level kids running in high school. The only weak events in the SEC are the distance events, and they are far weaker in Louisiana high school. By your logic, the Big Ten sucked Lebron James' senior year of high school because a high schooler was far better than the whole league
Posted on 5/16/11 at 6:39 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Alright, so there might be 4 kids(not Sylve) in the whole state, girls and boys, who could have placed in the SEC meet. What is unusual about that? Its not unheard of to have basketball players (e.g. Greg Monroe, Semoine Augustus) who could start for any college team in the nation as high schoolers. Those are the kids who end up being college stars.
You're reading way to much into my posts. All I'm implying is that there were several kids in Louisiana that would have competed in the SEC this year. Period. I said nothing about it being unusual, nor that the SEC sucks.
BTW. Sylve ran a wind aided 10.18 FAT a few weeks ago in a Texas. Are you going to sit there and argue that someone running a sub 10.2, wind aided or not, could not compete in the SEC?
This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/11 at 11:39 pm to GRIZZ
My mistake. I was talking to the guy who said this
I thought you were the one who said that and were actively defending that point. Rereading your posts, what you said is true. It just isn't a knock against the SEC like the other poster in this thread said.
Jeff Demps, Marek Nitt, Gabrielle Mvumvere, Dentarius Locke, Jonathan Juin, Harry Adams, Michael Granger, Keenen Brock, Terrel Wilks.
Which of those guys is Sylve faster than? They all(except Demps and Mvumvere) ran as fast as his fastest time of the year in the SEC meet with only a 3.0 wind. His 10.18 was ran in a prelim with a 3.9 win. And it's not like he consistently runs 10.2....10.4 is far more common out of him....That's not to say he's not a college level sprinter. Just defending the sprinting powerhouse that is the SEC.
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Hell, I'd say a lot of the kids at the LHSAA State track meet last weekend are better than half of this competition. It's amazing some of these teams are running/throwing kids with these numbers.
I thought you were the one who said that and were actively defending that point. Rereading your posts, what you said is true. It just isn't a knock against the SEC like the other poster in this thread said.
Jeff Demps, Marek Nitt, Gabrielle Mvumvere, Dentarius Locke, Jonathan Juin, Harry Adams, Michael Granger, Keenen Brock, Terrel Wilks.
Which of those guys is Sylve faster than? They all(except Demps and Mvumvere) ran as fast as his fastest time of the year in the SEC meet with only a 3.0 wind. His 10.18 was ran in a prelim with a 3.9 win. And it's not like he consistently runs 10.2....10.4 is far more common out of him....That's not to say he's not a college level sprinter. Just defending the sprinting powerhouse that is the SEC.
Posted on 5/16/11 at 11:49 pm to TheSexecutioner
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BTW. Sylve ran a wind aided 10.18 FAT a few weeks ago in a Texas. Are you going to sit there and argue that someone running a sub 10.2, wind aided or not, could not compete in the SEC?
So to answer your question, yes. Although it is conceivable, albeit unlikely, that a 10.18 in a 3.9 wind could get into the finals of an SEC meet, I will sit here and argue that Brandon Silve, a person who has ran sub 10.2, could not score points in the SEC meet.
Of course there can always be upsets. He can run even faster, 2 of the favorites can false start.
But based on what we know, he wouldn't be projected to score points.This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 11:51 pm
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