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re: 1961 NFL Starting Quarterbacks. Yes, LSU-related
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:48 am to CottonWasKing
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:48 am to CottonWasKing
Pretty sure Johnny U would do just fine today. In any era for that matter.
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:48 am to CottonWasKing
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You would also have to put him against the speed of today's secondary and linebackers along with the speed and size of the Dline.
And of course, he'd have the advantage of today's speedy WRs as well as the protection of superior OLs with 330 pounders who can run a sub-5 forty.
See how that works both ways?
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:52 am to timlan2057
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And of course, he'd have the advantage of today's speedy WRs as well as the protection of superior OLs with 330 pounders who can run a sub-5 forty.
See how that works both ways?
I agree. Im sure he would be just fine. I think assuming he would shatter every quarterback record is a little much. But wtf do I know? I wasnt even close to being alive to watch him play.
Defenses have also gotten a lot more elaborate today as well. There would be a pretty steep learning curve for him I think.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:56 am to CottonWasKing
He was about as good as they come. Could debate the eras all day long, but as someone pointed out, receivers could absolutely be mauled until the ball was in the air back then, and qbs were fair game until the whistle was blown. He had a couple of pretty bad injuries, one season ending, on hits that were well after the pass was completed and the play was moving downfield.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:59 am to CottonWasKing
Okay, the all-time records thing was a bit of an overstatement.
My point, as someone said, would be that the all-time greats would be great in any era.
Jim Brown would be an absolute monster in 2018.
But I’m not an old timer who cries about bygone eras and yersterday’s players being superior.
On the whole, today’s players are bigger, faster, and stronger than those 50 years ago.
If you could teleport the 1962 Green Bay Packers, with an offensive line that averaged about 250 pounds a man, to today—heck, they’d lose by 20 to the 2017 Cleveland Browns.
My point, as someone said, would be that the all-time greats would be great in any era.
Jim Brown would be an absolute monster in 2018.
But I’m not an old timer who cries about bygone eras and yersterday’s players being superior.
On the whole, today’s players are bigger, faster, and stronger than those 50 years ago.
If you could teleport the 1962 Green Bay Packers, with an offensive line that averaged about 250 pounds a man, to today—heck, they’d lose by 20 to the 2017 Cleveland Browns.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:01 am to timlan2057
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My point, as someone said, would be that the all-time greats would be great in any era
Now this I can get behind. In no era of football would Unitas be a scrub
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:35 am to CottonWasKing
Unitas, like all the QBs back then, called his own plays. Take away today's headsets, every-play subs, and wrist band playbooks, and he'd leave most of today's QBs in the dust.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:48 am to FtHuntTiger
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Unitas, like all the QBs back then, called his own plays. Take away today's headsets, every-play subs, and wrist band playbooks, and he'd leave most of today's QBs in the dust.
And the plays he was calling then would be blown up by modern defenses. We can go back and forth on this all day
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:48 am to timlan2057
Hopefully I'm right here IDK who #14 in red in the 2nd row is so Ima concede on that
Front row L-R:
#15 Tobin Rote
#10 Fran Tarkenton
#17 Don Meredith
#12 John Brodie
#9 Sonny Jurgenson
#14 YA
Back row L-R:
#16 Milt Plum
#22 Bobby Layne
#14 in red DK
#9(?) Bill Wade
#15 Bart Starr
#19 Johnny U
#16 Norm Snead
#12 Zeke Bratkowski
Front row L-R:
#15 Tobin Rote
#10 Fran Tarkenton
#17 Don Meredith
#12 John Brodie
#9 Sonny Jurgenson
#14 YA
Back row L-R:
#16 Milt Plum
#22 Bobby Layne
#14 in red DK
#9(?) Bill Wade
#15 Bart Starr
#19 Johnny U
#16 Norm Snead
#12 Zeke Bratkowski
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:52 am to ThePTExperience1969
Good job.
15 on front row-left is Jim Ninowski, and 14 for the STL Cardinals is Sam Etcheverry—of whom, I confess, I had never heard of.
15 on front row-left is Jim Ninowski, and 14 for the STL Cardinals is Sam Etcheverry—of whom, I confess, I had never heard of.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:02 pm to timlan2057
1961.... holy cow, YA and Fran both played a long time. I was born in 1969 and I remember watching Fran play for several years.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:12 pm to timlan2057
Earl Morrel
Fran Tarkenton
Dandy Don Meredith
John Brodie
Sonny Jurgensen
Yelverton Abraham Tittle
Frank Ryan
Unknown Steelers
Jim Ray Hart
Billy Wade
Bart Starr
Johnny Unitas
Norm Snead
John Hadl
Fran Tarkenton
Dandy Don Meredith
John Brodie
Sonny Jurgensen
Yelverton Abraham Tittle
Frank Ryan
Unknown Steelers
Jim Ray Hart
Billy Wade
Bart Starr
Johnny Unitas
Norm Snead
John Hadl
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:19 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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#16 Milt Plum
My dad grew up a Browns fan in NE Ohio during that era. I texted him this thread and even he didn't remember this.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:32 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Looks like a bunch of substitute PE teachers
No lie, Charlie Hennigan was my Uncle's PE teacher in the offseason at Jonesboro-Hodge HS. They didn't make enough money to live on year round.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:43 pm to Jim Rockford
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No lie, Charlie Hennigan was my Uncle's PE teacher in the offseason at Jonesboro-Hodge HS. They didn't make enough money to live on year round.
Man, what kind of contract would Jim Brown have gotten with 2018 figures?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:37 pm to timlan2057
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Hint: he spent one season in New Orleans during the Saints' early years.
Gary Cuzzo? Only one I remember.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:56 pm to young man tiger
I think Len Dawson was playing for the Dallas Texans in 1961.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:59 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Gary Cuzzo? Only one I remember.
Jim Ninowski.
Backed up Billy Kilmer in 1969.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:04 pm to timlan2057
All I could recognize was Johnny U for the colts, and I’m assuming that’s Bart Star to his right.
I’m not old enough for this
I’m not old enough for this
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:16 pm to StupidBinder
Another thing about Unitas, if Shula would have put him in 10 minutes earlier in Super Bowl III( he had been injured earlier in the year and Earl Morrall did an awesome job getting the Colts to the game,) a hELLuva lot less people would know who Joe Namath is.
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