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re: With 7 DL verbals, what does that mean re: Roy and Guillory?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:36 am to Rouge
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:36 am to Rouge
They are takes no matter what. I think we can all expect to see either Berry, or Gaye end up not in this class. Let’s assume 1 of those 2 backs out. We have 6 spots left in that scenario. Ideally you finish with
- 2 more D-linemen (Roy, Guillory)
- 1 RB (Clayton, Evans, Milton)
- 1 Safety (Alford, Ransom)
- 2-3 more o-linemen, possible another guy leaves the class (Dumervil, Crawford, Van Pran)
- 2 more D-linemen (Roy, Guillory)
- 1 RB (Clayton, Evans, Milton)
- 1 Safety (Alford, Ransom)
- 2-3 more o-linemen, possible another guy leaves the class (Dumervil, Crawford, Van Pran)
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 10:37 am
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:36 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:then just shut down this board, right?
another what if post...just wait it out and see what happens.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:37 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Never said Gaye was a 4 star recruit. The size comparison was exactly the one I made. They have very similar frames and athleticism, which is why I believe the coaches offered.
Brockers took three years to develop into the player he was. Gaye doesn't even have 3 years to develop.
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What do you mean by this? LSU will be hurting for DL in 2020. If anything we should be looking harder at JUCO.
I mean exactly what I said. Bringing in a Juco transfer with 2 years of eligibility who's never even produced at that level is no different than bringing in 3* project player.
You're acting like Gaye is going to come in, start day 1 and be productive. There's literally nothing that backs this. He's been a mediocre Juco player.
It's more likely he was offered as a depth and backup option if they miss on their other targets.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:44 am to RB10
If we land Roy and Guillory, I think Gaye is the one that gets pushed out. I see everyone saying Berry will be asked to explore other options, but to me, Gaye is the prime choice. He only has two years to play and him being raw is an understatement. Berry flashes when you watch his film and it will help our recruiting in Cali.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:46 am to RB10
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Gaye and Berry are "processed".
Gaye, yeah, I could see that... not much risk in not taking him, as he's a JUCO kid, so the value of the relationship for LSU is not as great...
Berry, i don't think so... they are working hard to establish in-roads in California, and if you look at the upcoming few classes, it's easy to see why... "processing" him, at this point, would be a big step back in that effort...
now, position changes, that's more likely, but again, inherent risk with that situation too... recruit may feel a certain way about being asked to play a different position, or even they do agree to it, doesn't mean that a 4 star DL will be a 4 star OL...
i'm just saying we need to make sure we just don't burn any bridges, nor shoot ourselves in the foot by being a little too eager taking verbals on guys that we initially meant to be sort of backup plans to our original wants
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:49 am to ECOTIGER
I certainly hope Jackson stays.
It is tremendous to get these commitments, but is there a chance other DL could move to offense?
It is tremendous to get these commitments, but is there a chance other DL could move to offense?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:50 am to GeauxLSU4
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If we land Roy and Guillory, I think Gaye is the one that gets pushed out. I see everyone saying Berry will be asked to explore other options, but to me, Gaye is the prime choice. He only has two years to play and him being raw is an understatement. Berry flashes when you watch his film and it will help our recruiting in Cali.
Exactly. Gaye isn't a polished player who's going to come in and be a plug-and-play situation. He still needs some development. That's difficult to do when he's capped at 2 years.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:59 am to TheDrunkenTigah
I could understand if he was an 18 year old incoming freshman with 5 years to develop. But why take a project who can only be there for two years? Makes no sense.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:06 am to RB10
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You're acting like Gaye is going to come in, start day 1 and be productive.
Given various comments surrounding his offer and commitment, I think this is exactly what the coaches expect from him. He's been called a physical specimen who is developing every day, with another year before he reports, not a guy who will take three years from the time he steps on campus to be ready. They expect him to perform this year in JUCO and be a highly sought after prospect. Maybe they don't like what they see in the fall and pull his offer, wouldn't shock me, but as of right now they are looking at him as an immediate impact guy. If you disagree with that, fine.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:15 am to MetryMauler
Berry being 16 is legit upside.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:21 am to tenderfoot tigah
The problem with Berry is he's a true nose and Guillory is a better one, and we took IKA last year. We are really hurting for guys who can play with versatility when switching between 3 and 4 man fronts. IKA and Guillory both fit that mold, I think Berry is much better suited playing over center.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:30 am to Rouge
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one could look at the takes and think that LSU is preparing for life without them
I hope this is the case. Whether they decommit or are processed, I'm tired of the days where we get to the end and the recruit we've been holding a spot for goes elsewhere and we're left holding the bag. Let's get good guys in that want to be here. If a higher star recruit misses a spot this year, at least going forward recruits know they'll have to get in early or miss out.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:37 am to Rouge
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does it mean:
1. expecting some attrition naturally or when/if they commit
2. means nothing. you take them no matter what
3. that LSU is prepared to have them go elsewhere
4. numbers are near full and they dont expect both/either
It means all of the above.
There will probably be attrition if both commit.
If they want in, you definitely are taking them.
LSU is preparing for them to go elsewhere, unlike what likely has happened in the past.
Numbers are certainly filling up, and maybe the staff isn't sure about one or both.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:39 am to Rouge
Bryant and Clowney are stand up rush OLBs like Chaisson
Berry I don’t think will be in this class
CamRon Jackson is an OT
So right now you’ve got Gaye, Taylor, Lee, and Jenkins in as ends. I’m sure at least one could grow into an inside guy
Guillory has a spot as the true NT in this class
Roy is the top priority and I’m sure the message they’re sending him is don’t worry about the numbers, you’re our #1 guy and you’ll always have a spot
The numbers will work out but we have got to load up on DL this year especially with how strong the state is with 4 legit SEC guys in state on the line this year. Haven’t seen that in a while
Berry I don’t think will be in this class
CamRon Jackson is an OT
So right now you’ve got Gaye, Taylor, Lee, and Jenkins in as ends. I’m sure at least one could grow into an inside guy
Guillory has a spot as the true NT in this class
Roy is the top priority and I’m sure the message they’re sending him is don’t worry about the numbers, you’re our #1 guy and you’ll always have a spot
The numbers will work out but we have got to load up on DL this year especially with how strong the state is with 4 legit SEC guys in state on the line this year. Haven’t seen that in a while
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:40 am to GeauxLSU4
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If we land Roy and Guillory, I think Gaye is the one that gets pushed out. I see everyone saying Berry will be asked to explore other options, but to me, Gaye is the prime choice. He only has two years to play and him being raw is an understatement. Berry flashes when you watch his film and it will help our recruiting in Cali.
If a juco guy isn't on the 2-deep (at least) from the day he steps on campus, there's no point of taking him.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:42 am to chRxis
I think Ricks coming in from Cali and balling as a true freshman will have a much greater positive impact on our in roads to Cali than kindly telling a dude like Berry (nothing personal to the guy) to explore his options would have a negative impact
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:59 am to BASED
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I think Ricks coming in from Cali and balling as a true freshman
How likely is that? He will be competing with Jefferson (maybe), Chase, Marshall, Palmer, Lee & Jenkins.
How likely is it that he cracks the top 4 as a freshman?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:02 pm to RB10
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Ricks coming in from Cali and balling as a true freshman
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How likely is that? He will be competing with Jefferson (maybe), Chase, Marshall, Palmer, Lee & Jenkins.
Do what now?
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:02 pm to BASED
Bottom line is, these are nice problems to have. Much better than desperately trying to get player "X" to commit at the last minute or scramble to find another recruit when the guy you wanted commits elsewhere days before signing day.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:05 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Do what now?
Nevermind. I was thinking of Jarrett.
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