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Why even recruit heavy out of HS any more?

Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Memphricabra
Member since Dec 2009
97 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:03 pm
Just take the top 10-15 players in the state or close by and take the rest from other colleges.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37520 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:10 pm to
Because the best players in the country may not be transferring.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21269 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:12 pm to
The portal should only be as needed.

What if the there are 5 WR in the top 15 and you only need 2? You need a QB and there are none. 3 OL but there’s only 1.
You end up needing to fill your team with transfers and that’s not a guarantee, or the quality.
HS recruiting gives you the luxury of building a team with talent and at needed positions.

This is actually a dumb thread so I’m gonna stop.

Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18756 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:14 pm to
I agree and this could bode very well for Louisiana. All the talent here. We could just let their freshman year play out then let them come home. Win win
Posted by brennans flip flops
Georgia
Member since Jan 2022
453 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:17 pm to
It’s nice to see where a players head is at and maturity level with portal kids. It would seem easier to win a championship now if you were only
Missing a few pieces with the portal.

I would still like to see a good amount of portal
Kids each year.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:32 pm to
You have to build. You can't build by taking that many players every year who will only be around 1 or 2 seasons. We can take up to 7 per year after this year. That is a pretty good number. Still should also be able to use some of the 25 but the 7 have to go on transfers.

5-8 per year sounds like a good number of transfers per year because with the portal, there will be plenty of them going forward until rules are changed.
Posted by Tjcajun
Member since Aug 2021
454 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:40 pm to
To build a program
Posted by Geaux_Fight_Win_20s
Member since Oct 2020
291 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:42 pm to
Nah recruit the right guys and coach them up. Regular year (25 limit), probably 5 transfers max to fill glaring gaps with a proven player or build depth in key areas by adding underclassmen transfer with a few years remaining.

I trust this staff though to get the balance right
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4689 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:44 pm to
You have to build through freshman class. Portal is for plugging immediate holes or the occasional elite luxury player.

Depending on the portal will get us in the exact situation we are in right now at LB. Always searching for plug in players and never having legit depth. It worked out with Cox, but not so well with Bugg Strong.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9200 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:58 pm to
I don’t think you will win championships by mining the portal.

It may make you better but I don’t think you can build a championship team full of group of 5 and fcs stars and program cast offs.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9365 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

We can take up to 7 per year after this year. That is a pretty good number. Still should also be able to use some of the 25 but the 7 have to go on transfers.

I don’t know where you’re getting this, but it’s not true.

As of right now, the 7 extra replacement slots are part of a one-year blanket signing limit waiver. It seems likely that the NCAA will have to implement some sort of long term solution if they keep the immediate transfer eligibility, but we have no idea what that long term solution will look like yet.

In other words - unless or until the NCAA adopts an official long term policy, the limits go back to 25 total initial counters for the 2023 class.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:55 pm to
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I don’t know where you’re getting this, but it’s not true.



Thanks for confirming the +7 is for 2022 only. Was pretty sure I read that the NCAA was looking at the possibility or a permanent solution to increase the number possibly to 30 or more.

The goal is to keep schools from having to use more and more of the 25 spots for transfers so more high schoolers are given a chance. We still have to balance building through players with 4-5 years of eligibility.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:02 pm to
It’s scary you would ask this question.
Posted by biggdogg
United States
Member since May 2008
1660 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:12 pm to
Stipulations about to drop for the portal it will useful but not as plentiful as it is now.
Posted by LeggauxTigers
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2014
579 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:33 am to
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portal should only be as needed
We don't know this yet. If 70% play their 1st year or 2 then go open market for NIL then might as well wait. We all hate it, but if that's what the new world is thats what we do. Offer Denver & Harold 100k once they show they can play, don't lock em into 100k as high schoolers. Then just take all the Louisiana kids as freshman.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 2:00 am
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9122 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:02 am to
You recruit to fill your immediate needs on a yearly bases using the portal and recruit for the future with HS. We will have misses and transfers from HS recruiting so use the portal and HS to replace those guys. If you can fill your slots with great HS talent, then you do it. If we see a guy we could use in the portal that particular year or down the line then you do that.

Let’s say we have 5 LBs and we know 3 of them will be good players, the other 2 are average. We have the option to grab an immediate transfer who we know can play and a great chance signing 3-4 next class. 2 of which are great players and 1 or 2 that may develop. You allow the average players to transfer and grab the player from the portal, then you can either recruit all 4 or just sign 3 knowing you now have depth for the present and future.

The following season you reevaluate those players and do it again. The point of the portal is to upgrade your roster, not fill it. Fill with HS talent, upgrade/replace with portal and better HS talent the following season. It’s going to be a balance to strike every season.
Posted by Memphricabra
Member since Dec 2009
97 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:42 am to
Well think about it or go back and look at the past recruiting classes. Only half are left by year 3 anyway. At least in the portal you will have good film on guys going up against better talent to evaluate.
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