re: Why do we harp on stars?

Cuz they're cool to look at man. What's it to ya?

OP has a tremendous amount of merit -- How were Bennie Logan, Deion Jones, Jacob Hester, and Foster Moreau rated?

Say yall need to be cool for real most of these people only come here every once in awhile to pick up some info on the home team ya dig?yall the people look too for the info dont be a punk about it.

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I see alot of folks on here stuck on a players star ranking on 247 and often wonder why

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Money, just like most everything else in life.

If they just did numerical ratings they would lose money. Your average consumer cannot remember a players rating numbers much less 15 to 20 players at the same time.

There are over 1,000,000 high school football players in the United States. You think the recruiting services evaluate ALL of them? Hell NO.

There was a fake 3-star player this summer who was evaluated by Rivals. Why? Because the high school kids who perpetuated the mythical player posted on his fake twitter that he had received an offer from Bama. Not only did he immediately receive a 3-star rating they did an evaluation article on him. funny.

Recruiting is fun but don't believe what you read or hear for the most part. 5 for 5. All the so-called experts here over the years. It is a crapshoot.

For instance Jeaux Burrow was a 3-star and rated lower than Arkansas' Heisman candidate QB by Rivals. Would you trade our lowly rated QB for their highly rated QB? The fact that Justin Jefferson was a 2-star tells you all you need to know.

Rivals article - Arkansas-LSU star power, PFF grades, stat comparison

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Because Bama is full of five stars and high four stars and they won six national championships

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Now do Clemson and lets talk about their classes not being rated higher than #9 and as low as 16 multiple times recently. Or how they have kicked the shite out of Bama and their top rated classes. Why do you think Clemson is rated so high this year?

It looks bad for the recruiting services when Clemson's shite classes kick the crap out of the classes they rate #1 in the country every year.

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These sites don't necessarily rate the players for the NFL

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I think that is exactly what they try to do. You ever notice 24/7 has 32 5-stars. The NFL has 32 teams and 32 first round picks.

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They really aren't.

Do you know what Tom Brady was rated?

Drew Brees?

Two of the best QB's ever to play in the NFL. Look up their ratings by the recruiting services.

Even a weatherman in Louisiana would be fired if he was only as accurate as recruiting service player rankings. And I am always amazed how bad the weathermen are.

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I said there were exceptions. Can you read?

From 2000-2014 53% of 5* recruits were drafted. that's insanely high when you're talking about evaluating tens of thousands of people a year and getting it right more than half the time on something that happens 3 years after the evaluation.

4* recruits are drafted at a 20% rate
3* 6%
2* 3%

Also the % of 5* recruits getting drafted is increasing as people get better at evaluating talent. From 2000-2004 the success rate was 48.4%, from 2010-2014 it was 62.2%. Stars matter. It means a significant number of people have evaluated them and think they are NFL talents.

Edit: I realize there are also players like Justin Jefferson that are downgraded for various reasons that aren't necessarily football related. Additionally recruiting has gotten much better so looking aback at the class of 1995 and 1997 means nothing in the modern context. Those guys were sending VHS taps and mailing them around.

a high star ranking is a good secondary form of validation that a player is a quality player. First form of validation is the coaches eval of a player. Unfortunately we don't really get to see the coaches evals so we have to go off of what we see and the recruiting services.

coaching staff may have thought of Jefferson as a 4 or 5 star talent even though the recruiting services had him as the 73 ranked player in Louisiana. Same thing with many other players LSU has recruited.

Thanks guys, alot of good explanations. Didn't mean to stir the pot so to speak I've just seen alot of talent come out of LSU who weren't five star recruits and some higher rates recruits that didn't pan out. And if 53% of the 32 kids rated at five stars go to the pros and 6% of the thousand(guessing here) three stars go pro then that means for every five star that pans out you have 4 three stars that pan out. So I still wouldn't be quick to judge a three star player that the coaches deem a good fit, even if it's a lower percentage.

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Speak for yourself, as I don't harp on stars.

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I trust the coaches opinions not fans.