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Which recruiting service is the best
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:00 am
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:15 am to ThePoo
There is also MaxPreps and Tom Lemming (CBS Sports).
I think most major outlets have a service now and I check out them all.
ESPN (Scouts Inc)
CBS (MaxPreps)
Fox (Scout)
Yahoo (Rivals)
I think most major outlets have a service now and I check out them all.
ESPN (Scouts Inc)
CBS (MaxPreps)
Fox (Scout)
Yahoo (Rivals)
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:43 am to Koolaidkidiz
I think 24/7 may end up being the best in a few years.
Right now I'd say Rivals.
Right now I'd say Rivals.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:53 am to bayoujd
I would say rivals does a good job but I dont really keep up that much with the others. ESPN has been better recently. The truth probably lies btw all three.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:55 am to ThePoo
me, i think they all have their plusses and minuses. they have inherent weaknesses that can't be ignored; mostly the number of evaluators and their ability to evaluate consistently around the country. they are a useful tool, however, in gauging the relative worth of a recruit. a tool, not THE tool. the bulk (number wise) of the kids with major college measureables are bunched up in their ratings. it's like judging wine, yes there are some standouts but most of them are good enough to become great if they age properly.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 9:59 am to LSU GrandDad
I actually think the numbers are pretty telling and really point out that there isnt much of a difference as far as talent evaluation between the top recruiting sites despite what some may preach
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:02 am to bayoujd
quote:
Right now I'd say Rivals.
ESPN - LSU #8
Scout - LSU #9
Rivals - LSU #4
Of course you say rivals.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:03 am to derekinne
quote:
Of course you say rivals.
I think most would agree that rivals is on top right now. If you've been around recruiting long enough, this has been the case for years.
Just cuz rivals doesn't have yall at no 1, doesn't mean they are not the best.
This post was edited on 1/26/11 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:05 am to Duckie
The Rivals coverage is the best, I'll say that.
The rankings... I'm not so sure. Player rankings that is. Rivals is the ultimate star gazing service and it's not even close.
The rankings... I'm not so sure. Player rankings that is. Rivals is the ultimate star gazing service and it's not even close.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:05 am to derekinne
well, if you read the numbers break down
rivals actual does come out slightly above Scout and Scout above ESPN as far as avoiding busts
rivals actual does come out slightly above Scout and Scout above ESPN as far as avoiding busts
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:06 am to Duckie
quote:
Just cuz rivals doesn't have yall at no 1
Link to where I said I give a shite about where we're ranked?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:07 am to derekinne
quote:
Link to where I said I give a shite about where we're ranked?
You didn't.
But neither did he and you brought it up wihtout him bringing it up, so ...
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:07 am to derekinne
Rivals also had the best numbers (by a negligible margin over scout) in all-americans, all-conference, and full time starters
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:09 am to ThePoo
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Rivals also had the best numbers (by a negligible margin over scout) in all-americans, all-conference, and full time starters
We discussed this the other day,
A lot of that has to do with how you play with the numbers. Of course rivals is gonna have better odds at 5 stars, because they don't hand out as many.
Not as hard to give out a top 25 list as it is to give out a top 50 list and get it right. Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:12 am to Duckie
well, the article also points out that there is a methodology that is not based merely on a star rating..
so this has more so to do with where a player was ranked by a site and not the stars by his name
quote:
What I've done here is create a grading scale for each college prospect and given them a grade from 0-5 based on their performance in college. These grade levels are shown on the table to the right.
After assigning a grade to each player that was ranked by one of the major services, I took two steps to rank the services.
First, I compiled a raw score. This is the total points the recruiting service earned based on the performance of the players it had ranked in its Top 100.
The second calculation is a weighted score. This takes into account where a recruiting service ranked a particular prospect. The higher a player was ranked in the Top 100, the more points he earns in this calculation. The top-ranked prospect in each class earns whatever he graded out at times a multiplier of 1. Players further down the Top 100 have their grade multiplied by a decreasing fraction of 1. (For example: No. 1 Prospect's grade is multiplied by 1.00, No. 2 Prospect's grade is multiplied by 0.99, No. 3 Prospect's grade is multiplied by 0.98, etc.).
This rewards the services for ranking players who went on to have great careers higher on their board. The better the weighted score, the more players the service had high in its ranking who turned out to be stars.
so this has more so to do with where a player was ranked by a site and not the stars by his name
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:14 am to ThePoo
Check out thread the other day.
I'll be honest, I didn't read your article because I've read 5 others just like it over the last two weeks. Amazing what happens when football season ends.
But, chekc out our thread from the other day. A guy on here made his own excel sheet and compared them.
I'll be honest, I didn't read your article because I've read 5 others just like it over the last two weeks. Amazing what happens when football season ends.
But, chekc out our thread from the other day. A guy on here made his own excel sheet and compared them.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:18 am to Duckie
which thread?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:21 am to ThePoo
shite, I can't find it. Give me a minute.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:33 am to ThePoo
Does anyone else find it odd that this kid put so much time and effort into accumulating and evaluating this data and yet he couldn't bother to get something more recent than a HS Senior portrait for his bio pic?
btw - If it hasn't been used, I'd like to coin the phrase "Gator Bowl" for this hairstyle
Posted on 1/26/11 at 10:41 am to Duckie
There is a huge flaw in this methodology in so far as it does not take into account that player production is not entirely in the player's hands. For instance, WR "A" signs with an SEC power who's offense has no identity and lacks in QB play, WR "B" though originally signed with the same team, switches to another SEC team who is young and agressive on offense and also lacks other viable receiving options. WR "B" is predictably going to show better production thean WR "A" though he may or may not have been ranked as high by the ranking agencies.
This is just one instance that comes to mind which may scew the production but not indicate that the palyers were ranked incorrectly. Not sure there is an accurate way to gage this, it just is.
This is just one instance that comes to mind which may scew the production but not indicate that the palyers were ranked incorrectly. Not sure there is an accurate way to gage this, it just is.
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