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re: What can we do to stop so many recruits from going to UGA?

Posted on 3/4/24 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Win championships.



Kirby was recruiting at an elite level before UGA ever won a natty with him at the helm, just saying
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28978 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Georgia's 2023 Offensive Stats Nationally:

Scoring Offense - 5th Nationally
Offensive 3rd Down Conversions - 1st Nationally
Team Passing Efficiency - 5th Nationally
Total Offense Yards Per Game - 5th Nationally
Stuff like this doesn't work when discussing UGA's offense. Sure efficacy is a great statistic on offense as a whole, but let's break down their offense a bit by the games.

They scored 24 at home vs South Carolina
They scored 27 on the road vs Auburn
They scored 30 at home vs Mizzou
They scored 24 in the championship game vs Bama

UGA put up 63 points vs essentially FSU's JV squad. If anybody pays attention to FSU, almost their entire starting unit was transfers. The rest of the two deep were guys who had stayed 4+ years. The vast majority of the starting unit and a chunk of the 2nd string didn't play vs UGA. Stuff like that is going to boost your numbers up way higher.

It's like people getting mad at Dan Mullen and Kyle Trask for getting blown out by a great Oklahoma team in 2020. Their top 4 pass catchers opted out. The passing game was their offense. They were averaging around 400 passing yards per game in the regular season that year. They essentially lost their offense before playing Oklahoma.


With all that said, UGA beat the breaks off of two of the 3 ranked teams they played in the regular season. They are still at the top of the hill, and we still have a ways to go to reach them. I believe LSU will prove this year that they have without a doubt, Offensive prowess over them. We don't need the same exact recruiting numbers as them. As long as we have a top 5 level and have great coaches to teach those guys, we can compete with UGA on a yearly basis.
Posted by Wing T
Joint Base Andrews, MD
Member since Aug 2022
590 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Even Nick Saban took 4 years to build up enough great personnel to win a natty
Nick Saban won in 2009, his third year.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2439 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:10 pm to
They’ve gone through a very recent facility facelift but wasn’t the case two years ago
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9749 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Nick Saban won in 2009, his third year.


I was talking about his time at LSU.

Also, Saban recruited multiple #1 classes at Bama before winning that natty, so it supports my point anyway.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9749 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:36 pm to
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They scored 24 at home vs South Carolina They scored 27 on the road vs Auburn They scored 30 at home vs Mizzou They scored 24 in the championship game vs Bama UGA put up 63 points vs essentially FSU's JV squad. If anybody pays attention to FSU, almost their entire starting unit was transfers. The rest of the two deep were guys who had stayed 4+ years. The vast majority of the starting unit and a chunk of the 2nd string didn't play vs UGA. Stuff like that is going to boost your numbers up way higher.



You’re cherry-picking really specific stats to support your argument and it’s not working.

You have to look at the whole picture to get an idea of what’s going on. Not just a narrow view with the really specific information that you reached for.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46335 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 3:56 pm to
Kirby has won games the same way Saban did, all those years.

Superior talent& depth

It’s not rocket science, great players make coaches look good.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8025 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Just win more games. Kids flock to a winner.


LOL at the dumb-shite that down voted this. You probably think all of those kids went to Alabama because of Saban’s sunny disposition. Get fricked.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9749 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:21 pm to
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LOL at the dumb-shite that down voted this. You probably think all of those kids went to Alabama because of Saban’s sunny disposition. Get fricked


First downvote for this post.

Saban and Kirby knew how to recruit before they were winning big. That’s how they eventually became winners. The question is how have they done this? Saban did it at LSU after all of our horrible seasons in the 90’s.
Posted by Wadey
Member since Sep 2020
2054 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:45 pm to
Not saying then don’t spend more then us but looking at this 2025 class somebody I spending a boatload with what we have signed. Looking at this visitors list tells me we aren’t stopping soon.
Memo sent to Scott to open the flood gates.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32093 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:23 pm to
Georgia really doesn't get as many guys out of their home state as people think
Posted by richbad
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
1224 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:25 pm to
Maybe threaten there lives.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43080 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:49 pm to
With the transfer portal being the way it is now, you’ll see more of a focus on Ga and the southeast in hopes that they are more likely to stay home.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5485 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:56 pm to
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Their facilities are way better than ours, IMO.


They didn’t even have an indoor facility until recently. I doubt facilities is the issue.

Win championships brings in more top tier talent.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9749 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:57 pm to
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They didn’t even have an indoor facility until recently. I doubt facilities is the issue. Win championships brings in more top tier talent.


Stop saying this dumb shite. I already explained why it’s wrong.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20124 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:06 am to
I would think our natural recruiting footprint (all of LA and into TX as far as Houston) is comparable to UGA's. After winning consecutive natty's and dethroning Saban, UGA became a national brand (even more so than before).

However, as the UGA poster notes above, in the NIL era they will likely prioritize homegrown recruits more. And IMO, so should we for the same reason.

After the '19 season and the '20 Covid season, our stories diverge. We, under moon-head Orgeron, went one way and they another. Now, CBK is reaching altitude. We have a staff of top-shelf recruiters recruiting top-shelf talent.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13340 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:53 am to
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Georgia really doesn't get as many guys out of their home state as people think



If folks really paid attention they'd understand, based on their results of top classes, just how amazing this is. A top 3 talent producing state(imo for football they've surpassed CA in quality if not sheer numbers) and Kirby still goes national. Amazing that they feel there is less competition for national recruits than those from their own state. The entire SEC and all ACC powers heavily recruit GA. It really does mean more.
Ways to thwart it, win and wait out the surge they are on much like we had to with Bama. It's essentially the same monster in our nightmares. We just don't have hard feelings towards Kirby like we do Saban.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9749 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:20 am to
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would think our natural recruiting footprint (all of LA and into TX as far as Houston)


I would say that Mississippi is part of our natural recruiting footprint as well. Probably Florida too because it’s close enough, has tons of talent, and we’ve been recruiting it and establishing ties there for years.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7160 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:26 am to
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If folks really paid attention they'd understand, based on their results of top classes, just how amazing this is. A top 3 talent producing state(imo for football they've surpassed CA in quality if not sheer numbers) and Kirby still goes national. Amazing that they feel there is less competition for national recruits than those from their own state. The entire SEC and all ACC powers heavily recruit GA. It really does mean more.
Ways to thwart it, win and wait out the surge they are on much like we had to with Bama. It's essentially the same monster in our nightmares. We just don't have hard feelings towards Kirby like we do Saban.
I mostly agree.

But I don't think Smart will be the same monster as Saban. Saban had a huge advantage recruiting in Louisiana and recruiting against LSU in that he was a former LSU head coach. Many Louisiana folks revere(d) Saban. They don't revere Smart. We don't have to worry as much about Smart plucking Louisiana players. That will help LSU be more competitive against Georgia/Smart than it was against Bama/Saban.
Posted by tiger109
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:48 am to
Wow! You live in another dimension.
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