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re: Update: Odoh in summer school trying to graduate. LSU waiting on eligibility?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:53 am to BilJ
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:53 am to BilJ
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erase the pettiness of your threat not to schedule games
Does he think you are the one actually scheduling the games or something? lol I'm surprised he is writing back as well. I can understand him not releasing the kid, but to specifically say he can't go to LSU is where the problem lies. The kid has developed a relationship with Jones and his staff, and that is who he wants to play for. N. Texas is basically telling him he can play elsewhere, just not where he wants to go. Not to mention through all of this it isn't even clear if Jones wants to take Odoh at LSU.
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:54 am to Duckie
I just shot him an email asking if he'd like to be reimbursed for those fat mileage checks Johnny got recruiting Odoh, and threw in a joke about their recruiting funds pool being smaller without an LSU rent a win check, within minutes he replied. Things must be slow over there.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:54 am to Duckie
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I can't believe this dude is actually responding to you schmucks.
I'm surprised, but it's also a little refreshing to see an athletic director address fans. I thought he'd be a little more politically correct about the situation though.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:57 am to BilJ
Whether, as fans, we like what he has to say or not ... It's cool to see him respond.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:06 am to Suntiger
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fans. I thought he'd be a little more politically correct about the situation though.
It's bout as close as it gets to telling a fan to fu@k off as we will see from a man in that kinda position.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:06 am to BilJ
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It is the decision of the head coach which I will support in whatever direction he decides to go.
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When this is all over I hope you and others who have sent these type messages are as quick to write back.
These are two very interesting quotes. It appears that the decision is not made. It also appears that Ricky V thinks that LSU fans will have a reason to write him back, hat in hand.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:14 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:09 am to Bubba Hotep
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When this is all over I hope you and others who have sent these type messages are as quick to write back.
These are two very interesting quotes. It appears that the decision is not made.
That's what I thought when I read it. I'll say that it gives me hope.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:11 am to Bubba Hotep
quote:It also appears that he's passing the buck to the HC, regardless of what the decision ultimately is.
These are two very interesting quotes. It appears that the decision is not made. It also appears that Ricky V thinks that LSU fans will have a reason to right him back, hat in hand.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:11 am to Suntiger
We should storm his inbox with thanks, good tidings and NSFW pics if Odoh is given a full release.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:14 am to ItsThatDude12
Mr. Villarreal,
I do appreciate the fact that you have taken the time out of you day to reply to the emails that have been sent to you. Below are some of your responses in which you have put the decision of not releasing players, solely on your coach. However, you are quoted by Andy Katz, that this is YOUR policy. If you notice, in the following paragraph, it states that you were adamant that Odoh was recruited by Jones with Mean Green funds. I’m curious as to how much the cost were to recruit a player who was 45 minutes away. And if I’m not mistaken, didn’t your team just pick up recruits that were recruited using another schools funds by a coach who is now on your staff. Here is that link and paragraph.
LINK
North Texas athletic director Rick Villarreal said Thursday night that he has a policy that he doesn’t release players who have signed with North Texas or leave the program during their career. Conversely, he won’t allow his coaches, even new ones like men’s basketball coach Tony Benford, to cut a player based on ability. He said the only way a player will be released is if there is an academic or behavior issue. This is relevant because signee John Odoh may want to follow former coach Johnny Jones to LSU. Villarreal said Odoh hasn’t asked for a release yet. If he does, don’t expect a release -- or at least not one to LSU. Villarreal was adamant that Odoh was recruited by Jones with Mean Green funds. Players may leave, but without a release, meaning they would then have to pay their own scholarships.
If you are misquoted, than I completely understand your following replies and you should definitely let Mr. Katz know about it. If not however, I am ASKING that you please explain to me how this doesn’t absolutely contradict itself. I also ASK that you please explain to me why you won’t release Mr. Odoh to LSU.
I should be ashamed! Be honest with yourself that your concern is not for a young foreign man but a player that could possibly help your basketball team. And try being informed when you send an e-mail. The decision to release or not release John is not the Athletic Director's but the incoming head coach's as it was with Johnny when he came to North Texas and now at LSU. However I will support my coach's decision whatever that might be just as Joe will support Johnny's decisions concerning his team
Rick Villarreal
P.M. I don't measure myself as a man by your or any other man's standards. I answer to a higher power and I always strive to do the right thing. Just ask your new head basketball coach.
When Johnny came to North Texas, we had a player that Johnny did not want released and I supported his decision. That young man ended transferring on his own dime. Money spent on the process never has been a sticking point for me in this or any situation concerning student-athletes. John the decision to release John Odoh is not mine to make. It is the decision of the head coach which I will support in whatever direction he decides to go. And although we play LSU his year, we do not have them on the schedule moving forward through 2020 and doesn't erase the pettiness of your threat not to schedule games. When this is all over I hope you and others who have sent these type messages are as quick to write back.
Respectfully,
I don’t know if you will reply to this message, but if you do it will be much appreciated.
Thank you,
I do appreciate the fact that you have taken the time out of you day to reply to the emails that have been sent to you. Below are some of your responses in which you have put the decision of not releasing players, solely on your coach. However, you are quoted by Andy Katz, that this is YOUR policy. If you notice, in the following paragraph, it states that you were adamant that Odoh was recruited by Jones with Mean Green funds. I’m curious as to how much the cost were to recruit a player who was 45 minutes away. And if I’m not mistaken, didn’t your team just pick up recruits that were recruited using another schools funds by a coach who is now on your staff. Here is that link and paragraph.
LINK
North Texas athletic director Rick Villarreal said Thursday night that he has a policy that he doesn’t release players who have signed with North Texas or leave the program during their career. Conversely, he won’t allow his coaches, even new ones like men’s basketball coach Tony Benford, to cut a player based on ability. He said the only way a player will be released is if there is an academic or behavior issue. This is relevant because signee John Odoh may want to follow former coach Johnny Jones to LSU. Villarreal said Odoh hasn’t asked for a release yet. If he does, don’t expect a release -- or at least not one to LSU. Villarreal was adamant that Odoh was recruited by Jones with Mean Green funds. Players may leave, but without a release, meaning they would then have to pay their own scholarships.
If you are misquoted, than I completely understand your following replies and you should definitely let Mr. Katz know about it. If not however, I am ASKING that you please explain to me how this doesn’t absolutely contradict itself. I also ASK that you please explain to me why you won’t release Mr. Odoh to LSU.
I should be ashamed! Be honest with yourself that your concern is not for a young foreign man but a player that could possibly help your basketball team. And try being informed when you send an e-mail. The decision to release or not release John is not the Athletic Director's but the incoming head coach's as it was with Johnny when he came to North Texas and now at LSU. However I will support my coach's decision whatever that might be just as Joe will support Johnny's decisions concerning his team
Rick Villarreal
P.M. I don't measure myself as a man by your or any other man's standards. I answer to a higher power and I always strive to do the right thing. Just ask your new head basketball coach.
When Johnny came to North Texas, we had a player that Johnny did not want released and I supported his decision. That young man ended transferring on his own dime. Money spent on the process never has been a sticking point for me in this or any situation concerning student-athletes. John the decision to release John Odoh is not mine to make. It is the decision of the head coach which I will support in whatever direction he decides to go. And although we play LSU his year, we do not have them on the schedule moving forward through 2020 and doesn't erase the pettiness of your threat not to schedule games. When this is all over I hope you and others who have sent these type messages are as quick to write back.
Respectfully,
I don’t know if you will reply to this message, but if you do it will be much appreciated.
Thank you,
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:17 am to Duckie
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I can't believe this dude is actually responding to you schmucks.
:kige:
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:17 am to LSUBoyd
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When Johnny came to North Texas, we had a player that Johnny did not want released and I supported his decision.
This is completely irrelevant. That was a long time ago and releases are handled much differently now. Ten years ago, I can't remember hardly any players getting released, by any coach. Today, it is commonplace.
Saying that Johnny Jones did it a decade ago is weak shite.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:18 am to BilJ
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I just shot him an email asking if he'd like to be reimbursed for those fat mileage checks Johnny got recruiting Odoh
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BilJ
Have pops send him a couple of pans of baked beans and let's call it even.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:21 am to Cash
By the way, if Odoh gets released and comes to LSU, I am giving this board full credit (accurately or not).
These coaches and administrators sometimes operate in a vacuum and have no idea of the public opinions and perceptions that exist in the outside world. Sometimes letting them know what is going on can have an impact.
These coaches and administrators sometimes operate in a vacuum and have no idea of the public opinions and perceptions that exist in the outside world. Sometimes letting them know what is going on can have an impact.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:44 am to Bubba Hotep
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These coaches and administrators sometimes operate in a vacuum and have no idea of the public opinions and perceptions that exist in the outside world.
With the advent of the net, sports talk shows, and 24 hr national TV shows this hardly the case any longer.
The "public opinions and perceptions that exist" in Louisiana or the minds of LSU fans will have little to no impact on a No Tex decision as to release or not release. imo
We should let JJ and Joe handle this play for LSU if one is to be made. It's tricky waters for them to swim in since JJ just got here from there.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:27 am to BilJ
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That AD is full of crap, this is nothing more than a jilted loved extracting some form of small revenge. Dude is a pussy for hiding behind the "its not my decision" as well
Yep, I responded:
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Rick, LSU's fortunes will not be determined by a JUCO transfer. Don't kid yourself. Either way, give one good reason (for your hypocrite coach) NOT to release him to LSU.
As for your coach's decision, that is a 100% cop out on your part. You are his boss. Are you not?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:30 am to BilJ
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When Johnny came to North Texas, we had a player that Johnny did not want released and I supported his decision. That young man ended transferring on his own dime.
Anyone know what the deal was on this?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:36 am to Skillet
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Anyone know what the deal was on this?
No, but that was more than a decade ago and releases from letters were handled much differently. It's a different era now and schools are much more lenient and keep the best interests of the player in mind. Or at least some schools do.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:04 pm to Bubba Hotep
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This is completely irrelevant. That was a long time ago and releases are handled much differently now. Ten years ago, I can't remember hardly any players getting released, by any coach. Today, it is commonplace. Saying that Johnny Jones did it a decade ago is weak shite.
I think that you have misinterpreted what he is saying.
What he is saying is that he will back up the decision of the head coach. ..just as he backed up the previous coach. He is implying that he will do this even if there is a level of unfairness. His only concern is that of his university.
In other words he is doing what every fan should want their AD to do. This sucks for us but him backing up his new coach is a good thing for UNT.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:29 pm to moneyg
I just don't buy that the new coach is taking this moral stand. Why would he care? The UNT AD is hiding behind him
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