re: Trey Hawsey 1B/OF West Monroe

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i wouldnt suggest you hold them back for sports purposes, thats stupid. im talking maturity across the board to make life changing decisions but your son is 100% at a disadvantage when it comes to school, life and overall maturity and college readiness. essentially you are saying...my kid does not need any extra guidance at 18, he is so smart he doesnt need an extra year under my guidance or in my house. Do you real;y believe any kid would not benefit from an extra year of guidance if they have good parents? Im sure you are a good parent and do you really believe you son would not benefit from an extra year living under your guidance helping him with decisions? Doesnt matter now because its too late but thats really what this boils down to as sports should not even factor in to the decision, thats just a bonus its...would my son/daughter benefit from living under my roof and having my guidance another year? Would another year of maturity under that guidance help them when making life-altering decisions? Yea i get annoyed with parents whining about this. Especially if the kid turns 19 right before graduation. There is a big difference between a kid being 17 and a couple months and 18 and 11 months or just turning 19 and if a parent of the 17 year old whines...gonna say something. Not the 19 year olds fault that his parents had more foresight than the 17 year olds.

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yea thats it. i give my opinion because i know a couple people at barbe name one time i have said...my opinion matters because i know people? who gives a frick who i know? my opinion matters because im pretty damn smart and have the ability to think critically and not be an emotional twat, not because of who i know as far as hold backs in youth baseball....imo a kid should have to play age group until 14, then they can repeat 14 if they are a hold back.

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You’ve gotten exponentially worse as the thread went on… this is great

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y believe any kid would not benefit from an extra year of guidance if they have good parents?

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if they have parents that have progressively given them increasing levels of responsibility, the hay is in the barn at 18.

Oh you can tweak em, but that tweaking is coming at 18 19 or 20. But the skills needed for the next four or five years post high school are well instilled prior to 18. Or they should be

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You’ve gotten exponentially worse as the thread went on… this is great

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ive been pretty consistent the whole thread

kids should be 18 when graduating or just turned 19.

dont hold back for sports purposes, do it because they will be better, more prepared and more well rounded kids with another year of guidance by a good set of parents

i havent wavered 1 bit.

i have stated for atleast 2 years travel ball...should be no grade hold backs until ith grade or 14u

dunno wtf you are talking about...i got worse...i have posted the same things for years on here.

And what is being discussed has nothing to do with academics or emotional maturity. It is the fact that some programs are holding back kids, kids that would be 18 in the fall of their Senior year (old and mature for their class). When you have 7 of 9 or so kids of your starters be not only hold backs but kids old for their appropriate grade prior to the retention, it isnt a secret as to why.

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And what is being discussed has nothing to do with academics or emotional maturity. It is the fact that some programs are holding back kids, kids that would be 18 in the fall of their Senior year (old and mature for their class). When you have 7 of 9 or so kids of your starters be not only hold backs but kids old for their appropriate grade prior to the retention, it isnt a secret as to why.

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again the rules state 19 before senior year so its well within the rules so why does it matter? trey is of the age that when he was held back, it was during elementary...do we really think his parents in 1st grade where like...we better hold him back, kid is going to be awesome at sports

and how do you know why the parents did it?

i do know programs that encourage it, no secret Barbe will encourage you to be held back atleast once. always have wanted their kids to be 18 during their senior year.

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If you don't have your kids prepared for the world by 18, what is 1 more year going to do?

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so another 5-6% of your life under the guidance of good parents is not going to help

believe what you want, ill go by what experience has shown me but i will ask, whats the rush to get the kids out of the house?

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dunno wtf you are talking about...i got worse...i have posted the same things for years on here.

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It’s just your overall attitude… in here talking down to everyone, convinced that YOUR way is the best way and the only correct way to do things… we get it bro, you’re clearly the smartest person in this room. Your parents probably held you back three times

Wow.

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ProjectP2294

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Thanks Project for the great explanation.

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do we really think his parents in 1st grade where like...we better hold him back, kid is going to be awesome at sports

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I would say that is the reason a vast majority of kids that are held back in Ouachita Parish for that very reason. I would assume that hold for the rest of the state. Parents talk about it openly.

I went to West Monroe and then moved away for over a decade before moving back. I've got a freshman entering West Monroe next year who will play football. I pretty decent percentage of the starters at his middle school were hold backs and I even saw one drive away from a practice with a parent in the passenger seat.

I didn't hold my son back because I wasn't going to make him repeat a grade simply to be a little better. He makes all A's. I wasn't going to stunt his natural mental growth and maturity by sticking him in a class with kids that are younger and less mature than he is. That's a pretty high price to pay for middle school glory.

Now if he had struggled in school, that would be a different story.