The pro style vs. the dual threat

We have more atheltes than Oregon, OKIE St. etc and we can manage any offense. I really think we were better off when JLee was the starter though. I like our chances with Mett but if we go back with another dual threat offense, I will go postal

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we can manage any offense

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jack of all trades, master of none. I'd rather be like Oregon or Okie state in that we have a philosophy and stick with it. It'd be nice if the rest of the team could practice for one type of philosophy and master it.

IMO FWIW

Problem is that LSU has had dog poop for qB for years now.

when i read dual-threat qb, it immediately makes me think that this refers to a qb who really can't play the traditional qb position unless his running makes up for his lack of reading defenses, or being unable to find 2nd even 3rd and fourth option receivers,for lack of touch on intermediate passes, for a lack of having a game presence ,for having happy feet in the pocket et al. i like the term mobile qb better, it at least appears to refer to the
player being a qb, instead of a runner.

Dual threat qb = strong arm but no accuracy, can't read defenses, would rather run than throw, no throwing technique = no qb

Duel threat = JJ and RP
Dual threat= Wilson

Quit freaking out. I think you, like most of our fanbase right now, are confusing dual-threat with no-threat qb's. There is nothing wrong with dual-threat qb's, see the last 3 Heisman trophies.

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when i read dual-threat qb, it immediately makes me think that this refers to a qb who really can't play the traditional qb position unless his running makes up for his lack of reading defenses, or being unable to find 2nd even 3rd and fourth option receivers,for lack of touch on intermediate passes, for a lack of having a game presence ,for having happy feet in the pocket et al.

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You hit the nail on the head here.

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I don't think there's much confusion. A "dual-threat" QB is either the real deal and keeps opposing defenses on their heels, or he doesn't pan out, defenses don't respect the pass, so your traditional ground game is ineffective in addition to your dual-threat becoming a single threat, which isn't much of a threat.

I think most of us want a pro-style QB because this is the SEC. It's the closest you can get to the pros in college. Defenses are stout enough against the run without giving them even more reason to stack the box.

Also, we are even seeing in the NFL now that as defenses get faster and more athletic, you NEED a legit passing attack to score points. You have to make them cover the whole field, or you're going to get swarmed.

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It seems some are comparing bad or mediocre "dual threat" to good to great "pocket passer". A bad pocket passer is no better than a bad dual threat. In fact, probably would be worse.

Would these discussions be the same if we had Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Robert Wilson, RG3, Tajh Boyd or any number of other successful "dual threat" QBs? I think not. But we just had a mediocre to bad "dual threat" and everybody wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. Did we say we did not want a "pocket passer" after 2008 with the 16 ints and seven quick 6's and worst record in the last few years? Why wasn't the clamor then to never recruit another "pocket passer" again?

It has nothing to do with "dual threat" or "pocket passer". It has to do with whether the QB is a good to great QB or a mediocre to bad QB. It is ignorant to argue LSU should pass on ALL "dual threat" QBs in the future. That would include the good to great and passing on the likes of Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Robert Wilson, Tajh Boyd and Heisman winner RG3. Hopefully no one is arguing that.

Four of the last six Heisman winners were "dual threat" QBs. 3 1/2 of the last 7 BCS championship teams have had "dual threat" QBs. Fla in 2007 had a "pocket passer" and "dual threat".

All of a sudden Randall is not even mentioned by some as a competing QB at LSU. Has there been a position change as some have hoped for? No one on this board can say he will not end up being the best of the bunch. But he is being written off because he is a "dual threat". One guy claimed he is inaccurate but could not state how he came to that conclusion. Let them all compete equally and let the best man win.