Some recruiting discussion:

so more of your opinion instead of notes

I’ll change the title then if it offends you. My fault

100 percent agree

I Def believe it's a philosophy thing with his "graduate champions"

Whenever he talks that is the 2nd thing he says.

Red flag.

You have people dumb enough on this board that thinks LSU is poor and can't compete in NIL bids. That's not the issue. The issue is Brian Kelly and what he wants. He better get his head out of his arse and realize if you want to compete in big dog football you need to bid up and get the best players.

Otherwise, you end up like the other night where FSU made our team look like they never conditioned to play football. That's what happens when they outbid us on 5 players we targeted in the portal and they all had a big impact on the game.

If I'm being honest, our staff does not impress me in recruiting at all. I'd argue its underwhelming when you consider the product on the field. Star rankings don't matter and Louisiana recruits are certainly underrated but you still have to get some sprinkled in blue chips that are the best of the best. QB is going to be underwhelming for years if they don't step the recruiting up here and same with DL. I'm not sold on Hurly personally. He may have hit his ceiling in HS. He's not showing progression jumps he's regressing which is a sign he may have hit his ceiling early.

For sure. From what I have gathered many situations like this unfolds in regards to high end talent and NIL,

LSU recruits the kid along with all the other top tier teams, then gives that said kid a starting NIL opportunity package that is pretty good. You then see LSU in top 10s and top 5s for that said recruit, and they continue to build the relationship with the coaches and all the other stuff as well. Later some teams will start upping their offer, and then a lot of back and forth goes on. It seems to me LSU tries to avoid bidding for a player that is going back and forth looking for the highest offer. That’s why you see Texas and Alabama for example winning out for Collin Simmons and Desmond Ricks in the later days or even hours.

LSU did this with Perkins though with BK no less the one that was part of the deal. LSU came out of nowhere at the last minute and outbid TAMU like a last minute Ebay bid.

Evaluations seem to be an issue for LSU. This might be part of the problem I mentioned above since Nader left and identifying the proper athletes at this level.

I agree. That kind of goes back to the philosophy part that Chalky was saying. LSU is capable of going back and forth and outbidding potentially. However they choose to be cautious, and that’s part of BKs position on it an not getting into many bidding wars. This doesn’t mean LSU does not bid, it just means they holdback a lot more at times.

I also agree with the Nader situation.

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I would like to say for probably the hundredth time that I really appreciate all the info and insight you provide here Cap.

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BTW since we're on the subject of recruiting...am I the only one who has noticed LSU's scouting has taken a significant dent since Nader left? I think this is a huge area of concern and needs to be addressed. I'm not impressed with LSU's scouting since he left.

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Been trying to tell people CBK’s recruiting tactics and scouting have been suspect since he stepped on campus. People keep saying wait 4-5 years but, with this trajectory (10-15th ranked HS recruiting classes, the program will be worse off especially with UT/OU/A&M out-recruiting us.