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re: SEC office says kicker Cole Tracy counts in 25

Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38961 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:07 pm to
Yea well frick the sec office. Sign 25 anyway.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24388 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:17 pm to
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LSU's compliance office is top notch.




frick our compliance department. Nerds there have parties every time they have a chance to neuter our program.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1419 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:29 pm to
So Tracy wasn't on scholarship at the Assumption College? Only way he counts towards the 25.
Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
1472 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:36 pm to
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So Tracy wasn't on scholarship at the Assumption College? Only way he counts towards the 25.


That is what I heard. He was never on scholarship so he's an initial counter. The coaches knew it when they signed him. I was told Tuesday night he would count but didn't quite believe it. I brought it to the board on Wednesday and was "booed off the stage"
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4097 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:39 pm to
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So Tracy wasn't on scholarship at the Assumption College? Only way he counts towards the 25.

Not how it works. You sign anything promising or awarding financial aid for athletic reasons, you count. The only exceptions are for walk ons who have been in the program for more than 2 years and athletes whose careers are finished due to injury before they start. I do think they will eventually add an exception for grad transfers, but it's not there right now.
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:47 pm to
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We only get this dude for one year.
If he kicks the game winner against Bama it will be all good.
Posted by lovemytigers1
far away land
Member since Aug 2014
1021 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:48 pm to
of course, we are not a grump
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:53 pm to
SEC ofc. is in Birmingham.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30365 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:55 pm to
If he really wasn’t on scholarship then his counting would fit both interpretations....any transfer signing with that school for the first time, or any player signing/counting for the first time in the sport.

With as many transfers as there are each year it will be pretty easy to tell how it works when the Spring semester starts.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64321 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:57 pm to
How the frick does a grad transfer count against the 25? I’ve never heard of that unless this is part of the new dumbass 25 rule
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4097 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:02 pm to
There is enough already. JC transfers are not listed as a special case and they count. The way the rules are written it's either all or nothing.
Posted by IM4LSUTIGERS
Member since Dec 2006
974 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:08 pm to
For what it's worth....at this time neither Rivals or 24/7 is listing him (Tracy) in the numbers for committed or signed....so they are reflecting that he (as a Grad Transfer) doesn't count
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2947 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:09 pm to
That pretty much ends the class with these 20 plus Joiner, Surtain, Goodrich, and Joseph.

No Foster or Chase. Or Beal, Watkins, or Washington. Not even a Robinson or Williams.

And you know what, it's OK. Not ideal but OK.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30365 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:12 pm to
What do you mean by JC transfers as a special case? If they went straight to juco out of high school they would still be receiving aid for the first time in the NCAA and would count. I’m referring to transfers within FBS, from FCS to FBS, or perhaps even a juco case like Lindsey Scott.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11386 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:13 pm to
Shocker.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60568 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:21 pm to
I don’t care if he uses two schollys. Just kick the ball between the yellow posts
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:27 pm to
Just more proof of why the SEC headquarters should be moved out of Alabama.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4097 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:29 pm to
What I mean is that the kicker has no prior relationship with LSU, so when he signed whatever promising or giving him the scholarship, it was the FIRST time he signed with LSU. Whether he was on scholarship or not is irrelevant. The first time language is to cover a case like Lindsey Scott if he were to return. If so, he wouldn't count because LSU already counted him when they signed him the first time.

If this doesn't clarify what I meant, maybe I don't understand your point. I'll be tied up for an hour or so and won't be able to respond again until then.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10617 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:42 pm to
Not ideal but I can think of a lot worse than getting a guy capable of hitting 90% of his FGA.

Thank God Culp didn't shite the bed till after the AUgame.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34194 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:47 pm to
LSU compliance department have diplomas from Alabama
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