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Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:00 pm to
True but also other teams have been severely overscored. LSU hasn’t gotten as much “favorable” scores as some other teams (Auburn, Michigan, OU, Kentucky). It all matters in the end.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
69799 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Not surprising no AA on Floor.



Kiya and Haleigh have been in and out of the AA all year due to injuries

Floor, it sucks not to have a single AA with the talent we have. KJ may have been one of the few shining moments from that event this year.

Aleah they need to go to the drawing board this offseason and figure out another tumbling pass for her dismount. I struggle to see how she lands it consistently in practice when she hasn't in a competition almost the entire year. Her opening pass Is perfection. That is one routine I felt we dropped the ball on in terms of construction. Aleah is powerful, has good personality but the elements and skill selection in that routine don't make much sense except for her double Arabian.
Posted by Pippa
Member since Mar 2022
139 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:18 pm to
Yeah they 100% need to figure out Finnegan's floor. Once the tumbling passes are figured out, she is going to get 10s. She shows tremendous personality/sass and you can't teach that.

KJ and Aleah are going to be stars on floor going forward.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
906 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:34 pm to
I wish our freshmen had been allowed to play a bigger role this year. I don’t know if it was injuries or Jay just easing them into it, but I would have liked to have seen more of Aleah and KJ and Tori Tatum on something. Last year I wish Dunne would have been able to do more. Yeah, they’re freshman and you don’t want to expect too much too soon from them, but other teams have certainly put their freshman out there. There are the big names like Suni, Wong, Carey, and McCallum who were obviously ready, but others like Groth from Auburn and Hudson from Bama (among others) who I’d never heard of before that were stars!
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1251 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:31 pm to
I enjoy watching Hudson. She’s so consistent. Heck of a recruit for Bama.
Posted by LauraGB
Stavanger, Norway
Member since Nov 2007
429 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:00 pm to
The freshmen from Missouri have also been killing it! Our freshmen did have bad luck with injuries and recovering from surgery. Maybe that’s why they couldn’t participate as much. I know they will do great things in the coming years!
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
906 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:30 pm to
Yes! Amari Celestine and another really good freshman.
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1251 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:52 am to
Jocelyn Moore!
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:55 am to
Just saw All American awards. Kinda disappointed to not see Desiderio on beam. She was solid all year.
Posted by Twz
Member since Dec 2018
467 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:32 am to
Those awards are really competitive especially this year with the olympians…you really want to be getting a bunch of 9.95+. But she still has a shot to be an all-American in the post season!
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
808 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:09 pm to
I think this is the issue though - we can’t compete if we don’t have the all-Americans. Christina and Kiya have been relatively the most solid for us - but in comparison to the top 20 (or whatever number) of beam workers in the country, they aren’t the top, score wise.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7027 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:10 pm to
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I think this is the issue though - we can’t compete if we don’t have the all-Americans. Christina and Kiya have been relatively the most solid for us - but in comparison to the top 20 (or whatever number) of beam workers in the country, they aren’t the top, score wise.

It’s because they have fallen off the beam. I bet the top 20 not one of them have fallen off. But for the most part both of those girls have been excellent on beam.

Overall this team has the talent but just has not been consistent enough. Still think they have the potential to get hot and make a run at this thing.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
808 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:00 pm to
Someone can do the actual math, but I don’t think that’s it. It is based on beam NQS - so, I think that each of their NQS’ (or at least Christina’s - KiYa may have fewer scores, though I am not actually sure either has fallen this year, either) would not include any falls (ie those scores are dropped, at least I think.
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
786 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:34 pm to
Neither has fallen this year. Christina just has a couple lower scores from mistakes at 2 different meets. As for Kiya, she has not competed beam enough for an NQS
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
69799 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:39 pm to
Her scores in general will also be a tad lower than others simply by being first in the lineup.

Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
808 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 4:53 pm to
Yes, agree with all of this - but The fact of the matter is regardless of the reasons - we don’t have any on beam while Utah and Auburn have two; and Florida, Oklahoma, Minnesota, abs Michigan each have one (between first and second team).

I think this probably speaks to our consistency most of all - it just isn’t there at a high-level (not necessarily Christina/Bridget but our end of lineup girls who could break into that realm by score-building).
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
69799 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Yes, agree with all of this - but The fact of the matter is regardless of the reasons - we don’t have any on beam while Utah and Auburn have two; and Florida, Oklahoma, Minnesota, abs Michigan each have one (between first and second team).



Utah and Florida has a team of simply pure beamers. Now LSU has some good beamers (Finnegan, Kiya, Haleigh, Desiderio) but 1-6 not at the level of those other teams. Its more then just hitting routines, they have routines that simply show superiority relative to the rest of the field given their extension and precision on leaps and dance elements.

Aleah will end up being an AA on that event when its all said and done. This year it felt like they were playing around with the dismount half the time. I am not mad about that, I think it was a good decision to make the change. Her scores have gone up since they changed her dismount.

Hopefully with Annie and Lilly coming in, (with Jeffrey already here) we see significant improvement next season on that event. But with all that said, beam has been solid all year (#5 in the country)

LSU is #10 on bars and #9 on floor. We were #2 on floor just a year ago.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
879 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:32 pm to
I just hope he allows Lily and Annie as freshmen to be in the beam lineup. He has had a different philosophy about pacing freshmen over the last couple of years compared to other teams that use their freshmen immediately. Both girls are artistic and good beamers. They should be assets to our team.
Posted by russiangym
Member since Jan 2020
157 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:27 pm to
I've been pleasantly surprised with how beam has gone this season. Gnat seems to be settling into her role well and has done a good job. Agree that changing Aleah's dismount was for the best.

I do hope we can use the freshmen more going forward. Otherwise, we essentially are not using them to full potential for a whole year of their eligibility. It also has knock on consequences, eg the athletes get to sophomore/junior season and some have done very few routines in competition (even in exhibition). We need to get them out there more.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
808 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:43 pm to
Yes. I am more disappointed in floor this year - j think beam has shown a great se of improvement. My point with focusing on beam is that we just don’t have the athletes to really put out a star quality beam lineup like Utah abs Florida. I think this hurts because it is easier, it seems to a high scoring floor score or vault (since only landings appear to matter unless you’re KJ doing a yurchenko full) score than beam, so if your beam is head and shoulders above the rest then you have an extreme advantage it seems to me. again, I think our beam lineup has performed really well - we just don’t have the same athletes.
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