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Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
952 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:53 pm to
I think us missing those 2 meets early really missed our progression up. I agree with most everybodies sentiments but we need to give Jay a couple of yrs. To get right.I don't understand though why you bring Jefferies here with the baggage if your not gunna use her. Her getting settled in just doesnt hold water to me. All these girls have spent there youth running around the world competing. At a bigtime school like LSU the best should hit the floor loyalty aside.
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:11 pm to
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At a bigtime school like LSU the best should hit the floor loyalty aside.

Yep. I hope after these super seniors are gone, we start to see this.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
925 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:47 pm to
Did anyone see this post on Aleah?

Inside Gymnastics
QUOTE: Aleah Finnegan competing for the Philippines sure sounds amazing! ?? Stay tuned for her interview coming soon to Inside Gymnastics Magazine and on Inside Gymnastics Twitter




This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70768 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 5:42 pm to
One media member had the balls to ask about other options on beam besides Sami during the media session today


Jay's response was he has full confidence in Sami. Says decisions are based on things in the gym and then mentions every athlete goes through struggles.


Seems doubtful we see Kiya and Haleigh in the AA on Friday with everything else going on both. Realistically, they probably arent going to take a major risk with SEC's right after this just for one regular season meet.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
925 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:27 pm to
Wow, it doesn't sound too promising for Friday night if Haleigh and Kiya aren't full throttle. Utah will be a challenge even if they do compete AA.

Speaking of Sami, I have heard that she hopes to be involved with gymnastics in the future. Who knows, maybe JC feels that he is giving her the competitive experience and exposure that would be beneficial if seeking future coaching opportunities. He has definitely relied on her gymnastics this season.

The bottom line is that LSU needs a really great meet this weekend. The girls need this for confidence going into SEC's.




This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted by ELT29
New Zealand
Member since Apr 2019
106 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:47 pm to
Tigerbait just watched the interview haha loved that media member being like she hasn’t scored over 9.775 (or something around that level) is it a good idea to keep putting her on beam ??.

Sad about hailey and kiya - if they can’t compete hope that we put Aleya in on bars and then maybe kj on beam to replace kiya if we need to. I was happy with Sarah replacing kiya last week just think we could organise the lineup better so that hayleigh is last to go ( if she is able). Do not want to see Sami on beam or floor
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
834 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:37 pm to
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Sad about hailey and kiya - if they can’t compete hope that we put Aleya in on bars and then maybe kj on beam to replace kiya if we need to. I was happy with Sarah replacing kiya last week just think we could organise the lineup better so that hayleigh is last to go ( if she is able). Do not want to see Sami on beam or floor


*Haleigh not Hayleigh or Hailey
*Aleah not Aleya

As for the lineup changes, if Jay plans to use Aleah on bars this post season, she needs at least one more time in the lineup this weekend to get her confidence up before he expects her to hit every time at SECs, Regionals and hopefully Nationals. As for beam and floor, I’m praying Alyona is back and well enough to do at least one if not both events this week. Without Haleigh and Kiya in the AA, I hope that were able to get at least one if not both of them at least on 3 events (I’d prefer to have them on beam over floor given the lack of depth in the event and if both are out, I hope that our lineup is Bina, Bridget, Aleah, KJ, Elena and Alyona if she can do beam, but no Sami). Sami has never competed floor and I don’t think she’ll start this weekend if at all.

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I don't understand though why you bring Jefferies here with the baggage if your not gunna use her. Her getting settled in just doesnt hold water to me. All these girls have spent there youth running around the world competing. At a bigtime school like LSU the best should hit the floor loyalty aside.


*Jeffery not Jefferies
Spelling mistake aside, I absolutely agree with you. Although she has only exhibitioned once so far this year, just watching her routine from Meet The Bruins back in December, her demeanor/confidence level, execution and her skill level is miles above where Livvy is on bars (because Livvy has regressed significantly over the past few years due to the NIL/fame stuff) and Alexis looked ready to go into any college team’s bars lineup then, and even now. Jay needs to put her in and give her a shot at the lineup this weekend, regardless of the baggage or what those on the internet may say about her
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
933 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:13 pm to
Finally someone has voiced what I’ve wondered for a while. Is this NIL stuff, and fame, and social media a distraction for some of the girls? I’ve wondered if they’re as mentally focused on gymnastics as they are on other things. I’m not talking about all of them, certainly not Haleigh or Kiya. But a few of them I do think may be focusing on other things more than gymnastics. I don’t know what Jay was talking about in particular when he said there was a lack of focus during warmups in Friday, but I thought that was a little red flag. Or maybe I’m just reading too much into that.

It’s not just a gymnastics issue. I believe the problem exists in some part in other sports as well, football in particular.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5417 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:15 pm to
The issue with Jeffery may be eligibility going forward. If she is used in a meet at this point, she can’t redshirt. Right? Maybe Jay wants to hold her out if at all possible and get a 5th year if she is able.
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
834 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:24 pm to
I was just theorizing when I stated that but it seems to make the most sense to me. Prior to her social media presence blowing up, Livvy was one of the cleanest gymnasts on the team with a pretty much secured spot in at least 2, potentially 3 of our lineups (I would’ve had her on floor over sierra last year if she was healthy given her lines she’s had for years and how clean her tumbling has proven to be on floor her entire gymnastics career along with her elegance in the choreography). It now feels like she’s paying more attention to building her brand, securing deals and posting photos and videos of herself over the details of her gymnastics like the rest of her teammates. Despite their issues internally with the program and their struggles during meets this season, even UCLA, who’s program’s social media accounts have more interactions than LSU, have less brand deals than Livvy as a collective and seem to be focusing more on trying to execute their routines in and out of the gym, than promoting themselves online, despite being in Los Angeles and having more opportunities to do so solely based on location. I’ve also noticed it a little bit with Sarah and Christina lately too.

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I don’t know what Jay was talking about in particular when he said there was a lack of focus during warmups in Friday, but I thought that was a little red flag. Or maybe I’m just reading too much into that.


I don’t think you’re reading too much into it though. I had the same thought/question/curiosity about this statement
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:31 pm to
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Jay's response was he has full confidence in Sami. Says decisions are based on things in the gym and then mentions every athlete goes through struggles.

Sami’s entire beam career is a struggle though.
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
834 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:41 pm to
Don’t worry. I’m in full agreement with you about Sami on beam. She was great for us her sophomore year when we needed her but beyond that, she should not have been in the lineups since then
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
812 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:20 pm to
Shaquilleoatmeal- that post is one for the ages!

All kidding aside - like, why Jay, why? When the media even has the guts to question it (I think there is a double
Standard when it comes to gymnastics versus other sports and being reasonably critical of the athletes) - then you know it is an extremely noticeable problem.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7751 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:19 pm to
Lsugymfann you don’t know what you’re talking about in regards to Livvy. Most of her social brand was already built up before she step foot on LSUs campus. Honestly think she hasn’t regressed at all. She’s gotten 9.9s this year and is usually no worse than 9.8. One thing I have noticed on this board is a lot of overreaction. About the only thing y’all have gotten right is Sami shouldn’t be on beam
Posted by lsugymfann
Seattle
Member since Apr 2020
834 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:34 pm to
Actually I do know what I’m talking about with regards to Livvy. Look at her form on bars in 2017/2018 vs now. She has regressed significantly. She has multiple form issues throughout her routine including on her dismount and has struggled with it all year long. If the judges actually did their job, she wouldn’t score above a 9.8 ever. And while yes, most of her social media brand began building prior to coming to LSU, the NIL rules being put in place have resulted in a massive increase in her popularity to where she can now make money off of her brand. As a fan, it often, at least to me, feels like she’s putting more energy and time into her brand than her gymnastics. And that is my opinion. Also, the comments on this thread about the team are not an overreaction. They are a general concern for the team and desire for them to be successful, but many coaching decisions have, at least in my opinion, hindered that success from happening year after year. As a long time fan of this program, it’s a bit concerning to me at this point that we’ve had so much talent and supposed depth in this program for years and yet it doesn’t get used as much as it should because the coaches have valued loyalty with the older gymnasts over giving the underclassmen a chance to compete in order to build the depth and the future of the program. We are probably the only team in the country who doesn’t take full advantage of the depth our team has, especially in the freshman class, year after year. We have yet to win a national championship as a program and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for that
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 11:53 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12058 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:32 am to
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lexis looked ready to go into any college team’s bars lineup then, and even now. Jay needs to put her in and give her a shot at the lineup this weekend, regardless of the baggage or what those on the internet may say about her


Its time to bury the baggage shite every time Alexis Jeffery is mentioned , as though somehow she needs to be apologized for. She is now a member of this team, the team voted to accept her and she should be treated like everyone else going forward.

One other point regarding the allegations made against her. If she was singing rap lyrics she is no different than millions of other college students, and in particular African American students. There was no racist intent and the media and those critical of her know it. Listen to the songs and lyrics of local rappers True Bleeda , NBA Young Boy and his little brother BWAY YUNGY and get a flavor for what appeals to millions of young people, mostly African American. Its time for this hypocrisy to end, the words are either offensive or they are not regardless of who sings or says them. We had a shootout between warring rapping " groups" in front of the Mall of Louisiana leaving two dead and two wounded and we are supposed to be offended by what an 18 year old white girl sings in private?
Posted by LauraGB
Stavanger, Norway
Member since Nov 2007
432 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 6:38 am to
Did y'all see the post on the college gymnastics FB page about the judges on Friday? No judges from Louisiana, one from Utah, and two from Alabama. The other one is from NC and they said she tends to judge high. Hopefully this won't be a factor.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
925 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:27 am to
To be honest even our Louisiana judges haven't seemed to show any great favor for us in home meets this year. It has been a strange season judging wise and leaves me with uncertainty as to how the judging will be at SEC's. Both Alabama teams will be heavily supported come SEC weekend with the championship being held in Alabama. I hope our booster club will encourage fans to attend to support LSU.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:22 am to
Would be nice but I think it’ll be tough to get people to travel that way. Women's basketball will be hosting a tournament game that weekend plus baseball.
Posted by Pippa
Member since Mar 2022
139 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:26 am to
We haven't been getting super scores because we haven't really been sticking consistently this year.

College gymnastics is now, more than ever, a stick business. If you stick, the judges are likely to completely forget about most of the minor form deductions in a routines and will instead reward. We've seen plenty of routines this year across the country that were filled with deductions and should'v been in the 9.8 range but they get erased because the gymnast sticks the landing and everybody is wylin' out so the judges are like "oh? the crowd loved it and the last thing I saw was a stick...so..... 9.95 sounds good."

We need to stick and the big scores will come.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:29 am
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