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re: Real story about recruiting
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:53 am to Stephen1979
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:53 am to Stephen1979
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Real story about recruiting by Stephen1979The fun part is very little cash changes hands
Don't tell Johnny Jones or Lester Earl this BS . How about Cam Robinson.? Maybe you're just not in the know.
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:43 am to supatigah
Can we shut up about all this. It's a public board. Talk like this with your friends. None of you have any proof anyway. You're just talking out of your arse.
Ole Miss and Clemson never lose a signing day. Bama is blatant. If we have to do something to keep pace, it has no business on a message board.
Ole Miss and Clemson never lose a signing day. Bama is blatant. If we have to do something to keep pace, it has no business on a message board.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:48 am to Crawfish Anytime
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Real story about recruiting
Except you didn't tell one real story about recruiting.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:51 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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Bama is blatant
Bama is smart about what they do. Since Saban has been in possession of the national championship, they have not had to spend nearly the amount of money the did prior to 2012.
The truth is very little actual cash changes hands anymore and many of the schools have hired away lawyers, etc. from the NCAA and these guys know their ways around many of the rules because they helped to craft them. Think about it for a minute in the case of Cam Newton. In the 1980's and 90's Auburn would have been crucified as would have Miss State over the 180K that Cecil was selling his kid for. Auburn because they paid the money(and they did) and MSU because they knew about it considered paying it, knew there were other bidders and did not report to the NCAA. In the case of Newton, loans were forgiven and wire transfers that the NCAA will never be able to get their hands on.
By 2010 it did not get any of them a slap on the wrist
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:58 pm to supatigah
The next big reveal we have I just want the recruits, instead of using hats, to put a pile of money each school has offered and then make his selection. Just tired of seeing these players put on a show when the truth is they are going to a particular school because that school paid the most!
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:04 pm to Bengal26
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I can't deny any of this, my only question is, why haven't stuff like this been leaked.. Why hasn't recruits call out schools for doing it if the my pick another school? Just a thought.
Ask Phil Fulmer about the kind of hell that comes down on you if you try to rat out another school. Ask him about the subpoenas served to him at half time of games and threats from lawyers representing the particular school that is accused.
Ask some of the kids who have tried to go public like the ones from Auburn who tried to go Real Sports a few years ago. THE institutions WILL go all out to protect themselves especially now after the Albert Means thing.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:08 pm to cheeser
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Don't tell Johnny Jones or Lester Earl this BS . How about Cam Robinson.? Maybe you're just not in the know.
I said very little cash gets exchanged....at least within the programs good at handling the process. As far as me "not being in the know" as you said, you have no clue who I am and who I know, so your assumption is just that. I've seen it done up close by the best in college football. There are ways to take care of people without much cash ever being exchanged.
Believe what you want jackass
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:56 pm to Bengal26
There's no sports writer that's going to go against an SEC head coach that has the power to destroy their career and the careers of love ones. Imagine facing the fans when your name is attached to a story that could bring down their program. Also, players don't say a word because they would be declared ineligible and other schools would never touch them.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:13 am to Crawfish Anytime
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There's no sports writer that's going to go against an SEC head coach that has the power to destroy their career and the careers of love ones. Imagine facing the fans when your name is attached to a story that could bring down their program. Also, players don't say a word because they would be declared ineligible and other schools would never touch them.
Unfortunately, this is true.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:16 am to KiwiHead
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Ask Phil Fulmer about the kind of hell that comes down on you if you try to rat out another school. Ask him about the subpoenas served to him at half time of games and threats from lawyers representing the particular school that is accused. Ask some of the kids who have tried to go public like the ones from Auburn who tried to go Real Sports a few years ago. THE institutions WILL go all out to protect themselves especially now after the Albert Means thing.
Since that time the schools got smart and hired the folks who made the laws. It is a different climate now than it was in 80's through early 2000's. Especially with Emmert running the show. He wants the corruption and the paying of players and bringing down the pretense. The bag men are running the asylum now. There would have to be a major revolution to happen and someone with power to get really p...d for there to be real change.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 1:17 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:20 am to KiwiHead
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Bama is smart about what they do. Since Saban has been in possession of the national championship, they have not had to spend nearly the amount of money the did prior to 2012
LSU needs to get smarter. It starts with our own compliance department. Unfortunately we then have to contend with Emmert and the a...s in the SEC office in B'ham. There is enough creative criminals in the state of La. to make something happen that will protect LSU's interest and enable us to get away with what others are doing. I am just tired of us being nice guy and then getting shatted all over.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:24 am to RagingCajun3195
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There is a book called meat market and it's about college football recruiting from their perspective. However, I haven't read it yet
From the reviews it says the book was written following Orgeron and his staff at Ole Miss. Also some of the reviews say it doesn't really offer much insight for the recruiting world
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 1:25 am
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:48 am to KiwiHead
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Ask Phil Fulmer about the kind of hell that comes down on you if you try to rat out another school. Ask him about the subpoenas served to him at half time of games and threats from lawyers representing the particular school that is accused. Ask some of the kids who have tried to go public like the ones from Auburn who tried to go Real Sports a few years ago. THE institutions WILL go all out to protect themselves especially now after the Albert Means thing.
The NCAA Doesn't have the power to subpoena anyone, and that is why cheating is blatant. No school can be made to testify about anything. Period. And oh, by the way, GoodOleLess used one of the recruiting tools to recruit the Honey Badger. He agreed to buy the Badger all the weed he could smoke while at LSU. Cheap compared to other recruiting "costs".
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 11:53 am to skullhawk
Finally,
Someone talking sense. There's no doubt this is taking place, but this board is making it sound like all top recruits are bringing in $300,000 or better. Anybody remember what Cam Newton's price was? Nowhere near this.
Think more along the lines of a mustang with deferred payments for 3 years, or a part time job paying absurd amounts of money per hour. This is the kind of stuff that sneaks by.
Let's say Bama offers a kid $300,000, but he signs with LSU. Why wouldn't he come public and say Bama offered big money and hurt a rival?
The less blatant the indescretion, the less the NCAA is involved. If everyone is throwing around a half million and more, don't you think more universities would get burned?
Keep in mind the Tunsil texts. It wasn't "hey coach, remember the $400,000 you gave me"? It was something more akin to "mom needs help with the rent this month"
Small favors over 4 years that add up to big payoff
Someone talking sense. There's no doubt this is taking place, but this board is making it sound like all top recruits are bringing in $300,000 or better. Anybody remember what Cam Newton's price was? Nowhere near this.
Think more along the lines of a mustang with deferred payments for 3 years, or a part time job paying absurd amounts of money per hour. This is the kind of stuff that sneaks by.
Let's say Bama offers a kid $300,000, but he signs with LSU. Why wouldn't he come public and say Bama offered big money and hurt a rival?
The less blatant the indescretion, the less the NCAA is involved. If everyone is throwing around a half million and more, don't you think more universities would get burned?
Keep in mind the Tunsil texts. It wasn't "hey coach, remember the $400,000 you gave me"? It was something more akin to "mom needs help with the rent this month"
Small favors over 4 years that add up to big payoff
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 11:57 am
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