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re: Portal striking HS recruiting now!
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:15 am to BlueTiger23
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:15 am to BlueTiger23
This is the beginning of how the farm system will go. Only the elite hs players will go to major power 4 programs. The rest will have to funnel through juco and non power 5 schools in hopes of getting picked up later on
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:10 pm to lostinbr
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In fact, theoretically the portal should increase the total number of roster spots available for HS recruits since not everyone who enters the portal finds a home.
Some will have to enter CFB at a lower level than they would have in the past… basically good CFB programs will never be “young” again
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:29 pm to chalmetteowl
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Some will have to enter CFB at a lower level than they would have in the past… basically good CFB programs will never be “young” again
Some SEC and national programs, average number of high school signees over the past 3 recruiting classes:
Georgia - 27.3
LSU - 26.0
Alabama - 25.3
Texas - 24.0
Tennessee - 23.7
Penn State - 25.7
Oregon - 25.0
Ohio State - 23.0
I didn’t go back and do a 3 year average for the whole SEC but in the 2025 class, SEC programs had an average of 22.9 HS signees with a median of 24.5.
The same 16 schools (I kept OU and Texas for the sake of being an equal comparison) had an average of 21.8 HS signees with a median of 23. I picked 2018 somewhat arbitrarily as one of the last pre-portal signing classes.
So the 16 SEC schools as a whole had more HS signees in 2025 than 2018. Does that hold up over multiple years and/or multiple conferences? I don’t know; I’d be interested to see the data. But based on what I have seen, it seems like the impact of the portal on HS signing classes at top programs might be overstated.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:21 am to Gravitiger
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JUCO made more sense before NCAA eliminated the year in residence requirement. I actually see them losing the influence they once had.
After the latest court ruling, they have renewed relevance, and not just for guys with issues with grades. Anyone who started football late or is raw and just needs more experience can now go the JUCO route and audition for a better school without losing any eligibility.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 12:15 pm to misey94
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Anyone who started football late or is raw and just needs more experience can now go the JUCO route and audition for a better school without losing any eligibility.
But they do lose years off of their career… this is my question… let’s say they go to JC right out of high school. They play two years and then go to a four year college for one. Are they eligible for the NFL draft at that point?
Remember, everyone that REEEEEs about older players still in college… they’re not good enough for the pros or they’d be there
Posted on 2/11/25 at 12:30 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:”not good enough” is a stretch. There are plenty of other factors that go into this. And having veterans in college is huge. Early impact underclassmen are a lot more rare than you think.
Remember, everyone that REEEEEs about older players still in college… they’re not good enough for the pros or they’d be there
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:33 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
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I'd say it has more to do with the fact they don't get every good player from the metro area anymore.
Correct. You have a school like St Martin’s with two D1 football commits this year, sorry Jeff, you can’t complain. Just a down year for you.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:26 pm to tigerskin
quote:We'll see. Most of the value for a recruit going JUCO out of HS was that coaches came to see the D1 bounce backs and might find you as a diamond in the rough. Now the D1 bounce backs aren't going JUCO anymore, and thus coaches aren't spending nearly as much time recruiting JUCO. I could always be wrong (it's definitely happened before), but I see JUCO football not having nearly the impact it has in the past.
Again this new rule hasn't been implemented yet about JUCO years not counting. Looking forwards not backwards
I also expect that new rule not to last very long once the House settlement goes into effect, and the big P4 conferences soon break off and do their own thing (or Congress gets formally involved).
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:29 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:Yes, NFL draft eligibility has nothing to do with how many years of college football you have played. It's purely based on how many years since your high school class graduated. They could always change it with a new CBA, but that seems unlikely.
let’s say they go to JC right out of high school. They play two years and then go to a four year college for one. Are they eligible for the NFL draft at that point?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:53 pm to Gravitiger
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or they ran a scheme that actually developed them for college
Never understand this type of argument. The coach’s job is to win ballgames, not make sure the kids are ready to go somewhere else to play for someone else.
Obviously, they shouldn’t be rigid in their style of play, but at the end of the day, the coach’s job is to win ballgames and do whatever helps them win ballgames, not whatever gets the kids recruited.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:46 pm to grizzlylongcut
I mean are they still running the veer? Cuz that system prepares no one for college schemes.
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