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One-time transfer waiver is likely coming by summer
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:23 pm
I’m not really for it, but I think it will benefit big schools.
From what I’ve read, could be a nationwide reality by summer and they will likely grandfather in current transfers.
This would mean instant eligibility for Josh LeBlanc and Shareef O’Neal in basketball.
Could also open up a lot more potential transfers in football since we have open scholarships to give.
From what I’ve read, could be a nationwide reality by summer and they will likely grandfather in current transfers.
This would mean instant eligibility for Josh LeBlanc and Shareef O’Neal in basketball.
Could also open up a lot more potential transfers in football since we have open scholarships to give.
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:33 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I’m not really for it
Can I ask why? Why should these kids--who make no money off this--be penalized for wanting to change schools? Because that's what the current rule is: a penalty. What reason is there to penalize them other than it (arguably) makes the fan experience better? And is an arguably better fan experience really justification to frick with these kids' potential livelihoods by making them choose between sitting out a year or staying in an undesirable situation? I say let the kids go to school where they want, and let them play.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:44 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I've read that one of part of the criteria to allow for immediate eligibility is that the player
I seem to recall Leblanc being dismissed from the Georgetown team prior to him deciding to transfer. However, the criminal charges against him were dismissed without a guilty plea of any sort (he agreed to stay away from the alleged victim)
Presumably LSU could argue that he was kicked off the team for accusations of a crime which he was never found to have committed. I know it is the society we live in, but I have a hard time with someone suffering adverse consequences SOLELY based upon accusations
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Leave under no disciplinary suspension.
I seem to recall Leblanc being dismissed from the Georgetown team prior to him deciding to transfer. However, the criminal charges against him were dismissed without a guilty plea of any sort (he agreed to stay away from the alleged victim)
Presumably LSU could argue that he was kicked off the team for accusations of a crime which he was never found to have committed. I know it is the society we live in, but I have a hard time with someone suffering adverse consequences SOLELY based upon accusations
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:46 pm to LifeAquatic
The only bad thing is if schools start processing players in droves to be able to have room for transfers.
Coaches will have to be careful though, it will impact recruiting if they are not careful with how they do it.
Baseball will be the sport that gets hit the hardest.
Once the draft and signings are over, baseball coaches are going to be recruiting the heck out of players to fill needs. Only problem is how they manage it from a scholarship perspective with the limits in place.
Coaches will have to be careful though, it will impact recruiting if they are not careful with how they do it.
Baseball will be the sport that gets hit the hardest.
Once the draft and signings are over, baseball coaches are going to be recruiting the heck out of players to fill needs. Only problem is how they manage it from a scholarship perspective with the limits in place.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:48 pm to LifeAquatic
That discussion is not appropriate for the recruiting board. Start a thread on the MSB if you would like to cry for the poor student athletes.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:55 pm to LifeAquatic
Agree especially when a majority of coaches look right at players and lie right in their face.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:02 pm to LifeAquatic
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I’m not really for it,
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Can I ask why?
Unintended consequences. You and many others aren't seeing both sides. Truly honestly look at both sides. Sure it is great for players.
What happens when a school who has been recruiting someone for 3 or 4 years finally gets their future student-athlete to sign and play for their school. That prospect is behind a star-senior and only needs to wait a redshirt freshmen year to be a break-out star.
Have you ever heard of having to de-recruit kids - readjust their level of attention and expectations after the shark tank that is recruiting? What happens if another SEC school sends a late bag man, or what are the rules on whether or not Coach Saban can call them every week and get in their head about grass is always greener BS.
You haven't thought about the ramifications, and neither has the NCAA. Im afraid though may well-intentioned, this will be the beginning of free agency which may as well make the NCAA the minor leagues for the NFL - and that is a very dark path I never wanted to see my favorite sport go down.
Really, do your best to seek the unintended consequences, even with the best intentions...
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:05 pm to LifeAquatic
Coaches and staffs gonna hate it. For one thing it really affect recruiting, especially with the hard cap on signees. I get what you are saying about penalizing the kids. If a school could get the scholarships back or not have the transfers count against a cap it might be more palatable. I personally think the NCAA cap on signees, esp in football, has gotten way to restrictive. Schools can’t afford to take a chance on grades or eligibility issues
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:08 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Give the babies a bottle because they don't get their way.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:18 pm to nicholastiger
The thing about processing players is that the hard cap of 25 will still exist.
That will prevent wholesale transfers, just as it has with the portal now.
Something like 90 percent of players that enter the portal never transfer anywhere because there are no scholarships.
That will prevent wholesale transfers, just as it has with the portal now.
Something like 90 percent of players that enter the portal never transfer anywhere because there are no scholarships.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Let the poaching begin 
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:30 pm to nicholastiger
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Baseball will be the sport that gets hit the hardest.
Once the draft and signings are over, baseball coaches are going to be recruiting the heck out of players to fill needs. Only problem is how they manage it from a scholarship perspective with the limits in place
Baseball didn’t have the sit out rule until like 10 years ago. And it never hurt the game than so doubt it will if the rule reverts back to what it was the previous 50-70 years of the sport.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Imagine if our baseball coach could use it to get proven left handed pitchers
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
This is arse backwards IMO the reason being is it’s only a matter of years before players will be paid in some form or fashion so why not get that squared away first?
It’s going to be a God Damn free for all
It’s going to be a God Damn free for all
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Got a link to what you're reading?
Here is Ross Dellenger at SI.com from today.
Seems, according to SI, that there are a lot of administrators and decision makers that don't like it. Some even going as far as to point out its thinly veiled attempt to reduce pressure coming from DC over the athletic compensation issue.
Doesn't sound so likely.
Here is Ross Dellenger at SI.com from today.
Seems, according to SI, that there are a lot of administrators and decision makers that don't like it. Some even going as far as to point out its thinly veiled attempt to reduce pressure coming from DC over the athletic compensation issue.
Doesn't sound so likely.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:00 pm to minimal
SDS
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The ACC recently publicly issued its support for the rule while the Big Ten has also issued its support for the rule, according to Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports.
The NCAA announced on Tuesday that a Transfer Waiver Working Group has been formed to consider the rule change
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Should this rule pass, there still will be some restrictions on transfers seeking to gain their eligibility immediately at a new school. Athletes will have to have gained a release from their previous school, have to be in good academic standing, maintain academic progress at their new school and have no pending disciplinary actions or suspensions before gaining eligibility at a new school.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:01 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
For football, as long as they still count towards the 25 man counter, there will be a limit to these transfers as teams will have to weigh taking on transfers vs filling out their class in the traditional manner
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That discussion is not appropriate for the recruiting board. Start a thread on the MSB if you would like to cry for the poor student athletes.
hot to forget ,we the tax payers pay all their expenses. Most people or business' expect something in return for the tens of thousands , if not more ,spent on them.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:10 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
1. Propose policy change
2. Create working group to consider it
3. ????
4. Likely coming soon
2. Create working group to consider it
3. ????
4. Likely coming soon
Posted on 2/26/20 at 3:35 pm to LifeAquatic
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Can I ask why?
IMO it will lead to P5 schools only recruiting about 15-20 or so kids out of HS every year and then looking to poach the remaining 5-10 players in their class from G5 schools (or lowly ACC schools
). Think about it, the last 5-10 spots can either be low 4 stars and/or 3 stars that need a decent amount of developing and have a pretty high risk of not panning out OR you can go get some guys that have proven they can play at the G5 level.
The G5 will essentially turn into a minor league for the P5 programs to pillage for more developed and proven talent.
To an LSU fan that might not seem like a bad thing but it will further the gap between G5 and P5.
It'll be worse for basketball than for football because one player can make a much greater impact in basketball. Kentucky for example doesn't have very many good shooters on the team this year. With the one time transfer rule, they can now go poach a shooter or 2 from some mid major. Now instead of missouri valley state making a Cinderella run in March, they are stuck at home cuz their best player is playing in Lexington.
Edit: I guess you could argue the reverse could also happen where a G5 school such as UCF tries to poach a former 5 star that is second or 3rd on the depth chart from Bama's roster.
The main football impact, IMO, will be the poaching of QBs and OL. These are by far the hardest positions to project and develop.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 3:52 pm
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