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re: OM On3 recruiting guy says Geralds to Rebels

Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:26 am to
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Some players are just wanting clarity on the staff and we don’t have that right now. If the people they loved that recruited them are no longer going to be at a school, it’s not surprising players would reconsider


All happen to just be from the same place or connected to the same "Recruiter" by coincidence.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:27 am to
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It would take anyone a day or two to come to grips with that demotion.



So, we should feel bad for someone who completely failed at their job for getting a demotion?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:29 am to
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Imagine Frank goes to Ole Piss


If it is as Running Backs coach or any on the field coaching position, that would definitely be hilarious, because that unit would immediately suck for Ole Miss unless they play freshmen. They will then consistently get worse as they spend time under his tutelage.

Let Ole Miss have him.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:44 am to
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The E-knights for Frank on here have become absurd. The guy has and will always be about himself.
You seem upset. Do you want me to help you set up some time with a therapist?

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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.

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In the end, Frank may be one of the worst actual coaches in college football
Really?!?! Really?!?! One of the WORST coaches in college football. Maybe that's a little strong? He sures seems to have had a pretty long career as a college coach to be one of the WORST coaches in college football.

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but you people want to cow down to him because of a bunch of NOLA coaches.
I don't think anyone wants to cow down to Frank Wilson.

I don't think anyone knows how to cow down, but we are willing to learn. Would they send us someplace special?

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He can't even lock down NOLA players as many players have left with him here.

Money is what gets these players, not some politicking former high school coach that only got his positions in college because of recruits and not actual coaching ability.
Oh, you are angry. Seriously, I can hook you up with a therapist this weekend. Just say when, and it's a go.

Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state. What good recruiters do is build relationships that increase the chance of getting a player and reduce the price of the player. Obviously, that has value.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13497 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.


Is that any different than you WANTING to believe they’re not true?


I don’t have a dog in this fight. Everything that is being speculated on the internet right now is just that… speculation.. NONE of us honestly have any clue what’s going on behind closed doors. We can guess, we can infer, but ultimately it’s a complete waste of time because none of us are privy to that info

I’d even be hesitant to fully believe anything that’s leaked out right now. Every single situation is a micro-PR campaign right now



Everyone just needs to chill out and let the chips fall
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3076 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:58 am to
Cbree might be ok if he didn't post every time a fart enters his brain.
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
Armchair QB
Member since Apr 2022
1763 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:01 am to
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the DC hire


This is killing us. I’m happy for Baker, but man, this, coupled with the timeline re: early signing and the one portal window, sucks.

The NCAA needs to re-examine the portal timing, especially since teams and players in the playoffs are not on the same playing field as it were. Players on teams in the playoffs who might want to enter the portal after the playoffs. Teams in the playoffs that need to use the portal to fill needs for the following season will probably be busy with game preparation for their opponents.

Also, they should reevaluate whether the early signing day should either be moved up or done away with to allow for the coaching changes, which always happen after the season.
Teams with coaching changes and high school players
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:02 am to
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You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.


I could care less if they are true. I simply hate over-praised men who have proven over and over again for 15 years now they suck at their job. They are supposed to coach up players and not down, and that is precisely what Frank Wilson has done his entire career.

Player after player peaking as a true freshmen only to regress under his tutelage. But instead people praise him as some "LSU first" man who is amazing and irreplaceable.

What good are 5* RBs if the coach is going to basically regress them to 2*s, while the other schools' coaches take 2* and 3* RBs and make them play like 5*s?

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Really?!?! Really?!?


! One of the WORST coaches in college football. Maybe that's a little strong? He sures seems to have had a pretty long career as a college coach to be one of the WORST coaches in college football.



As far as coaching goes, the stats and anyone with eyes can see this. Any time he has coached a player for more than one year, they regress unless they are a generational talent like Fournette. We have missed on so many 5* and 4* running backs who actually lived up to their hype under him. But hey let's not let facts screw up a narrative that he is Football Jesus as a coach/recruiter.

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Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state.


So they he serves no purpose since he cant' coach worth a shite and we can pay the players to come now.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 9:04 am
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32682 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:04 am to
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The NCAA needs to re-examine the portal timing, especially since teams and players in the playoffs are not on the same playing field as it were. Players on teams in the playoffs who might want to enter the portal after the playoffs. Teams in the playoffs that need to use the portal to fill needs for the following season will probably be busy with game preparation for their opponents.

Also, they should reevaluate whether the early signing day should either be moved up or done away with to allow for the coaching changes, which always happen after the season.
Teams with coaching changes and high school players
or just move the whole schedule up and the current timelines for everything else works better.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:05 am to
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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You want us to believe you are unbiased. But you clearly WANT to believe the rumors, and, it's time to admit it at least to yourself, you DO believe the rumors.
Is that any different than you WANTING to believe they’re not true?
Yes. There is a huge difference.

I'm not offering some bullshite attempt to show that I'm not biased about Frank Wilson. He says he doesn't know if he believes the rumors. The very next line in his post clearly indicates that he does, in fact, BELIEVE the rumors. So, he is coming from a place with an agenda but wants us to believe that he has no bias. He's lying to himself, and he's lying to us. I tend not to place much credence in a person who lies. Particularly, when the rest of what they're saying is laced with emotion.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:13 am to
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Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state.
So they he serves no purpose since he cant' coach worth a shite and we can pay the players to come now.
Oh, you're the type of poster who misquotes others to make your point.

Next time, just wave a flag that announces that you are full of shite.

What I posted was:
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Nobody can "lock down" any geographic area. Some kids just want to get out of state. What good recruiters do is build relationships that increase the chance of getting a player and reduce the price of the player. Obviously, that has value.
Everyone with a functioning brain knows that a salesman with a relationship has a huge advantage over a salesman with no relationship. It's not all about price.
Posted by Smokin Joe Dumas
Armchair QB
Member since Apr 2022
1763 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:14 am to
Yeah. Back or forward.

The early signing day was okay, but it might as well be actual signing day now as almost every recruit now signs on that day, whether they need to or not. It’s not a bad thing and I know that the date is to benefit players, but the old signing date is fine or move it up to before high school season.

Schools can still evaluate seniors and they can sign on regular signing day if they don’t sign early. School visits will just be done as juniors
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:24 am to
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he very next line in his post clearly indicates that he does, in fact, BELIEVE the rumors.


You have reading comprehension issues. In the very next line you quoted to try and prove this point, I said I believed he would use leverage to get what he wants. That doesn't mean he is steering kids away, but I have little doubt he would use and is using his leverage in some form.

Guy has gotten so many unearned jobs by being a politician to get kids from NOLA, and again, his hit rate there has been abysmal his entire career for what he is supposedly revered for.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 9:28 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:26 am to
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Oh, you're the type of poster who misquotes others to make your point.

Next time, just wave a flag that announces that you are full of shite.

What I posted was:


Then he has little worth if he is a massive negative as an actual coach and can't guarantee anything. Plain and simple.

You gave him an excuse for not getting all of the players nor even the ones that should have gone to LSU from all their comments.

Then, you will likely turn around and say he can't control what 18 year olds and their families do? While true, unless he is guaranteeing players to LSU without having to overpay anyhow, then he is utterly useless and will just hurt this team. He should be let go.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:42 am to
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Then he has little worth if he is a massive negative as an actual coach and can't guarantee anything. Plain and simple.

You gave him an excuse for not getting all of the players nor even the ones that should have gone to LSU from all their comments.

Then, you will likely turn around and say he can't control what 18 year olds and their families do? While true, unless he is guaranteeing players to LSU without having to overpay anyhow, then he is utterly useless and will just hurt this team. He should be let go.
Do you deal with sales at all in the real world?

It is undeniably true that no salesman can guarantee a sale.

It's also undeniably true that there are some salesmen who are much better than others.

Richard Anderson is from New Orleans. He signed with LSU.

Aidan Hall is from New Orleans. He signed with LSU.

Jabari Mack is from Destrehan. He signed with LSU.

That's pretty good. I'm with happy with those results.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22823 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:42 am to
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Why does anyone care? He’s a high school boy. There are grown men much more developed than him available in the portal
Guys like him don't usually hit the portal once they sign. You get him in, and then sign guys who are unhappy where they currently are (guys who can't move up the depth chart where they are, or are better than the programs they signed with).
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7145 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:59 am to
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he very next line in his post clearly indicates that he does, in fact, BELIEVE the rumors.
You have reading comprehension issues. In the very next line you quoted to try and prove this point, I said I believed he would use leverage to get what he wants. That doesn't mean he is steering kids away, but I have little doubt he would use and is using his leverage in some form.
Sigh.

You're full of shite. Let's look at what YOU actually posted.

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Do I believe the specific rumors that he is using the kids as leverage? I don't know.

Do I believe he would use it as leverage in some way? You bet your arse, he would and probably is.
You didn't just say that you believed he would use leverage to get what he wants. You said that you believe that he probably is using leverage to get what he wants.

Don't sugarcoat it. Don't spin it. Don't lie to us. Don't lie to yourself.

Accept it. Admit it. Embrace your beliefs.

You BELIEVE the rumors that Frank Wilson is using his position to stop recruits from signing with LSU.


.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:12 am to
I said in some way. That doesn't mean he is actively telling kids to not sign with LSU unless they give him what he wants like some have mentioned.

There is a difference, but that is a bit hard for you to understand.

In the end, you are one his staunch defenders of Wilson as if he is some unicorn. In the previous post you act like this is still LSU from the 1990s and unless we have Wilson, we will get no NOLA talent. That is simply not true.

You don't need a guy like Wilson anymore because of two things: 1) The program is a top-tier program now and not a struggling mess with no winning seasons, and 2) you can pay the players now.

Thus, Frank is obsolete and not worth the negative he brings on the actual coaching side. It's not just that he is useless, but players actively regress under him consistently.
Posted by WhyAreWeHere
Dallas
Member since Aug 2018
382 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:14 am to
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guys who can't move up the depth chart where they are


No

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better than the programs they signed with


Yes
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22823 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:20 am to
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guys who can't move up the depth chart where they are



No
Yes. Are you forgetting Aaron Anderson?

There are only so many spots on the field. You look at some of these classes, some elite programs have guys who would start at 100 other schools, can barely get on the field where they are at.
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